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Re: "The ID Divide"
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:47:39 -0700
________________________________________ From: Joel M Snyder [Joel.Snyder () Opus1 COM] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:37 PM To: David Farber Cc: dan () lynch com Subject: Re: [IP] Re: "The ID Divide" That's not ID in the classical sense; it's simply a way of reproducibly saying that this is the same guy who was in here last week. It's very useful for what you want to do (keep records and people matched up), but honestly isn't too germane to the discussion of "who are you" which is an entirely different question entirely. There are those of us who feel that authenticating ourselves (which is actually what most ID requests are about) using a password that we can't change and which has to be shared among all service providers is not really a smart idea. jms David Farber wrote:
________________________________________ From: Dan Lynch [dan () lynch com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:44 AM To: David Farber; Mary Shaw Subject: Re: [IP] Re: "The ID Divide" I am on the board of a large health clinic for people of all categories and what we realize is that the only ID that will work is one the patient brings in with every visit: their biometric identity, the iris in their eyes. A tiny fraction of individuals will not have that due to unfortunate circumstances and those can be handled "offline". Dan On 6/9/08 4:35 AM, "David Farber" <dave () farber net> wrote:________________________________________ From: Mary Shaw [mary.shaw () gmail com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:40 AM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] Re: "The ID Divide" Dave, This discussion is ignoring an important population, people who are neither illegal nor privacy advocates. One of my colleagues formerly worked with a medical clinic serving indigent clients. He has told me that one of their problems was tracking clients -- that is, matching a client in the clinic today with his or her history at that or other clinics. You might expect that an ID card would solve, or at least help with, this problem. But he reports that the clients didn't retain and bring back ID cards. If I understand correctly, many clients didn't see the ID card as an item of any significance; if it had any value they'd have no hesitation to trade it away. So a discussion of universal ID needs to consider how to persuade people that ID matters and how they can maintain physical security of the ID token.. That problem is even more intractable than the technology problems, and I think it's another reason why universal ID won't succeed. Mary Shaw ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.comTel. 707-967-0203 Cell 650-776-7313 My assistant is Dori Kirk Tel. 707-255-7094 dori () lynch com ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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