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Re: DPI and my testimony to Congress today


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:59:06 -0700


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From: Paul Hubbard [phubbard () gmail com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:42 PM
To: David Farber
Cc: ip
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   DPI and my testimony to Congress today

From: Matthew Tarpy [tarpy () tarpify com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:06 PM
To: David Farber; ip
Cc: dpreed () reed com
Subject: RE: [IP] DPI and my testimony to Congress today

deal.  It may concern your readers as well. What gives the ISPs
(Charter, Embarq, BT, ...) the right to read every packet that every
one
of their users sends, analyze the data, modify the responses, etc.?

I'm going to channel my inner Brett (apologizes to Brett) and say, if
it's in their ToS that's what gives them the right; it IS their
network
after all, you're choosing to transverse it. Don't like it, do
business
with someone else. To be fair, the ISPs do need to be more upfront
about
what they're doing, but I see little difference between DPI and Tivo
monitoring what's paused, played, and recorded and providing that
aggregate to interested parties.

There is a difference here between packet inspection and packet
modification. Your comment addresses the first but not the second. My
disagreement with your argument can be explained with a related
metaphor: Would it be acceptable to you if the resurgent Ma Bell did
the same for voice? After all, analysis of what products were being
discussed would undoubtedly have great value.

If not, why are IP packets less privileged than voice?

I'd be curious to hear your opinion of packet editors such as Phorm
and NebuAd; I find them unacceptable.

-Paul




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