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RE: Legal Question about privacy
From: "dave kleiman" <dave () netmedic net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:25:47 -0400
You stated: "OK.. Assume your surveillance system includes an audio recording. Let's say your thief breaks in, helps himself to a cup of coffee, and calls a friend of his on his cell phone. Your system records it. You may have just committed an illegal wiretap/recording, depending on your jurisdiction." You could not hear what the person on the other side of his cell phone was saying, therefore he would not be "recorded", if the "expectation of privacy" exists then there is a problem. If that is the case a sign on your front door would remove this expectation of privacy from the person inside your house. Once again any prevalent case law would prevail here. _____________________ Dave Kleiman dave () netmedic net www.netmedic.net "High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation." Jack Kinder -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 23:18 To: dave kleiman Cc: honeypots () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Legal Question about privacy On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:58:12 EDT, dave kleiman said:
Does a thief who broke into your house have an "expectation of privacy"?
The problem isn't the thief, the problem is the person that the thief is hypothetically talking to on the phone almost certainly has an expectation of privacy - they're sitting in their own living room, secure in the knowledge that they're in a 2-party state (meaning local law requires both parties to consent to recording a phone conversation), and they didn't consent to any recording.
Just a as a warning banner on your site or in logon pages are suggested
for
legal reasons.
Just remember that the *OTHER* party to the conversation never saw the warning banner....
Current thread:
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Dan Bernard (Jul 23)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Dave Dittrich (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Stefan Kelm (Jul 28)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy t. elam (Jul 28)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Stefan Kelm (Jul 28)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Legal Question about privacy dave kleiman (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 24)
- RE: Legal Question about privacy dave kleiman (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 24)
- RE: Legal Question about privacy dave kleiman (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Jack Cleaver (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Dave Dittrich (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Richard Johnson (Jul 24)
- Re: Legal Question about privacy Matt D. Harris (Jul 29)