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Re: netiquette argument of the month
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:32:36 -0700
-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Gadi Evron Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:35 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] netiquette argument of the month On 7/11/10 6:10 AM, der Mouse wrote:Well, I can't really say you have anyone but yourself to be blamed
if
you get blocked for your rudeness. (That's what assuming everyone else's software works the way yours does amounts to. It's also what burning others' resources (mailbox space, bandwidth, human time) for your convenience amounts to.)I don't see it as rudeness (and I'm an expert). I see it as practical and net-engulfing practice. I am okay with your beliefs going against the mainstream. All the power to you. But "blocked by zealotness" is a flag I am willing to carry, my friend. As if anyone will block me for
a
common harmless practice they disapprove of, they are rude, and I
don't
want them as my friends. ;) Gadi.
[Tomas L. Byrnes] I find it very interesting that the supposedly most "liberal" people in general are the ones most ready to take offense at, and attempt to censor, the speech of others. I was on the Internet (OK, it was NSFNET) in 1981. It's why I'm tomb, because there was already a tom @ the RDS computer society. Back then, minimizing traffic, text only, and all the things Rich and Mouse argue for made sense. They even made sense when we started to let the AOLamers on in the early 90s. Now, they really don't. You have ample processing power at your disposal to filter and categorize at will. If your mailer or mail client is too dumb to know an identical post sent TO you and to a list you subscribe to should only show up once, you really should get another mail client. SPAM is one thing: it's abuse of your paid for resources for the economic gain of another. These holy wars about keeping the net as it once was are pure Luddism, a trait often found in those who call themselves (but are actually the antithesis of) "liberal". Laissez faire. Rich is free to bin my mail, but he is in violation of the RFCs with his response code. IF he chooses to use his mailer to insult his senders, he should send a 571, with at least an actual sentence about WHY, not some lame comment about the sender. The better option is to silently send me to /dev/null, what we used to call "twitting", before some n00b born after the 'net made that a business. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Apparently I'm "Unbalanced" Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 09)
- Re: Apparently I'm "Unbalanced" Rich Kulawiec (Jul 10)
- netiquette argument of the month Gadi Evron (Jul 10)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month der Mouse (Jul 10)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 11)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month der Mouse (Jul 11)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 11)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month der Mouse (Jul 11)
- netiquette argument of the month Gadi Evron (Jul 10)
- Re: Apparently I'm "Unbalanced" Rich Kulawiec (Jul 10)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Rich Kulawiec (Jul 12)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Gadi Evron (Jul 13)
- Re: netiquette argument of the month Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 13)