Re: Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model

[Alex Eckelberry <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>]

Isreal airport security is absolutely intense.  You have to arrive at least 3 hours before your flight.  Every single 
person is questioned (or interrogated, depending on your viewpoint).   Pat-downs, searches, etc.  It really is quite an 
experience for a person used to the TSA. 

Implementing Isreal-like security would make travel a) unbearable and b) incredibly time consuming. 


Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Miller [mailto:cmiller () securityevaluators com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:00 PM
To: Paul Ferguson
Cc: Alex Eckelberry; funsec
Subject: Re: [funsec] Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model

I thought Schneier's post made no sense.  To summarize:

Israelis do a good job with airport security.
The US is much larger than Israel.
Therefore, the Israeli method would not work in the US.

Huh?  I was with you for the first 2 steps, but that last statement  
doesn't follow from the first two....

Charlie

On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:

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> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Alex Eckelberry
> <AlexE () sunbelt-software com> wrote:
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> > However, they do two things in Isreal which, if JUST those two are  
> > done
> > well, would obviate the need for removing shoes, spectacles, fluids  
> > and
> > all other idiocy that we go through now:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.      They have a kick-ass intelligence service and
> >
> > 2.      They have security people observing passengers and asking
> > questions.
> >
> >
> >
> > These two points would have stopped every single potential bomber,
> > including the 9/11 hijackers, Richard Reid and the underwear  
> > bomber.  And
> > we would all be a lot happier, saner and travel would actually be a
> > pleasure.
> >
> > I would also add that we should move to having portable security
> > checkpoints at the gate areas themselves, like in Vienna, rather than
> > right in front of the terminal.  Easier to manage small groups of  
> > people
> > entering an airline than thousands of passengers per hour.
>
> "...the Israeli airport security model does not scale." - Bruce  
> Schneier
>
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/adopting_the_is.html
>
> I'm not one to simply parrot Schneier's nuggets of wisdom, but as  
> outlined
> in the blog post above, I agree with this.
>
> $.02,
>
> - - ferg
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