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Re: global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:47:32 -0400
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 09:40:46PM -0400, der Mouse wrote:
For example: there isn't the slightest reason for any security conference to happen, per se. There's no need to heat/cool a meeting place, no need to expend jet fuel/gasoline/diesel transporting people to it, etc. It's completely possible to do the entire thing virtually -- and while that also uses some energy, of course, it's far less.Yes, but the benefits are also substantially less. You lose all the meetings at meals, yakking with randoms met in the hallway, etc, which in my experience usually rival and often surpass in value the overt business of the conference.
Yes, I know. But we could -- if we had the will -- replace that. We've invented plenty of technology (including this here intarwebs) and worked out plenty of social interactions which use it. This is just one more. (e.g.: there was a time when having a conversation with someone required being in proximity. Now that we have this "telephone" thingy, we can do it remotely.) But we just don't want to: we're creatures of habit and we like our habits, and we probably won't change them until we're compelled to. Which is why even organizations *which would not exist* were it not for the Internet will steadfastly refuse to actually use the Internet to full advantage. ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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