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Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:17:57 +1200
The "modern caveman", Brian Loe wrote:
I'm so very sorry that you have such trouble with the English language, but here again is what I said, as you quoted it:Your rights end at the tip of my nose.Now what rights am I willing to give up again? After all, any that would do you harm are not rights to begin with, as I stated clearly in this oft quoted sentence. Here's an example I might give one of my children (who didn't take nearly this long to pick up the concept, btw): I have the right to travel. I do not, however, have the right to travel through someone else's property - possibly causing them financial damage. I have the right to do what ever the hell I like in my car while driving UNTIL I do you damage. Once I have damaged you, you and the society I live in have the power to make me pay for it in any reasonable and humane way.
Yet you defend -- nay, are aggressively in the favour of -- what you claim is your right to use possibly fatal force to defend yourself if you perceive your life, or that of various others more or less closely associated with you (be that familial or possibly even just geographical) is "endangered". Thus, your position of your right to "drink and drive" is an excellent development. By applying other of your caveman ethics, that means the rest of us have the right to shoot you, possibly fatally, while you are drink- driving, as we perceive such actions on your part as an imminent threat to our lives or the lives of those around us. Anyone want to go stake out Brian's street for his next drink-driving episode? The ethicist in him will thank you for killing him... Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 15)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (May 15)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 15)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Nick FitzGerald (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 15)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Nick FitzGerald (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Nick FitzGerald (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Blue Boar (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Valdis . Kletnieks (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Nick FitzGerald (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel der Mouse (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Valdis . Kletnieks (May 14)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel David Harley (May 13)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 13)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel David Harley (May 13)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 13)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel David Harley (May 13)