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Re: why Senator Stevens is right on Net Neutrality


From: "Dude VanWinkle" <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:13:52 -0400

On 7/6/06, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote:
Erm, I think we agree dude.

My point is, it is ALL about business, which is why we shouldn't let these
ISP's tell us how to use our lines.


Whoops, I missed the

"(against the legislation and PRO Net Neutrality)"

Part

no more emails before 8:00am from Dude :-)

-JP<who simmers down now>

        Gadi.

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Dude VanWinkle wrote:

> On 7/6/06, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote:
>
> > He nailed down the subject into the point that matters:
> > Business. It's about profit.
>
> BullShit, the net _can_ be all about profit, but it should be more than that.
>
> Humans currently turn everything people enjoy into a business, but the
> fact is business as usual(as it is here in the states at least) is bad
> for the continued development of an idea or service.
>
> Music is now a business, and its mostly schlock.
>
> Cars and gasoline are businesses, thats why all the trolleys were
> dismantled and also why the electric car was put on the shelf.
>
> Light bulbs are a business and thats why they burn out in a year, even
> though they are capable of lasting almost indefinitely.
>
> Energy is a business, thats why .... err you get the idea.
>
> If we let businesses do what businesses do, the Internet will become
> nothing but a big AOL landscape, full of schlock.
>
> The net was paid for partly by billions of taxpayer dollars in
> incentives (and student tuitions), Why should these monopolies (some
> of which were forcably dismanteled and are now buying each other up
> again [see at&t and bellsouth] be the only ones in control?
>
> Since you like the Tubes description so much, why not think of the
> Internet as a Subway system, which is paid for and maintained by the
> Government.
>
> > "The whole concept is [that] we should not go into this until someone
> > shows there is something that's been done that really is a violation of
> > that neutrality."
>
>
> I give it a max of 4 years before _proof_ of that comes out. Just wait
> till the short term memory of the american public drifts away, then
> alter your QoS and blame any service interruptions on "system
> failures".
>
> -JP
>


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