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Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship
From: "Stephen John Smoogen" <smooge () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:16:08 -0600
On 5/19/06, Brian Loe <knobdy () gmail com> wrote:
probably be a pretty disappointing result. However, I'd still rather live here than in England because here I have a basic right to self defense - and a right to the means to do it - and I don't smoke pot
Actually under current laws, a United States citizen does not have a basic right to self-defense according to the Federal laws (and most state laws). The supreme court has ruled in the past with both conservative and liberal majorities that the rights to self-defense are limited. These have also been dealt with Congressional laws and Executive orders (both from conservative and liberal governments). It seems that while it makes for good politicing in the south to say you think everyone has a right to bear arms no matter what.. what the politicians do when they get power is completely different. Another thing that was pointed out to me from a very conservative/liberterian lawyer was that in many many rulings/laws/etc since the time of the founding fathers that the items spelled out in the Declaration of Independance does not have a 'legal' basis (especially in any state that did not sign onto it originally). Any legal basis for it ended after the Articles of Confederation of the original "United States" fell apart and the Constitution of 1787 was signed. The notion of states being 'miniature' countries is also not one held up much anymore by either many state governments or the federal government. While it is on paper, and every now and again in supreme court rulings.. states have become more like 'counties' are in the individual states than 'countries'. This may change in the future, but the tendency for each state to taking a backseat to a highly centralized governemtn seems pretty clear. -- Stephen J Smoogen. CSIRT/Linux System Administrator _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship, (continued)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Valdis . Kletnieks (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Drsolly (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Drsolly (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Brian Loe (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Drsolly (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Brian Loe (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Drsolly (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Brian Loe (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Drsolly (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Brian Loe (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Stephen John Smoogen (May 19)
- RE: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Young, Keith (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship der Mouse (May 20)
- RE: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Drsolly (May 19)
- Re: EU Promotes Continent-Wide Censorship Valdis . Kletnieks (May 19)