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Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!]
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:23:16 +1300
Blue Boar to Drsolly to ??? (Gadi?):
Then let us agree most Bad Guys won't bother with it as they have better surces?I don't agree. What are these sources?I would like to further muddy things by pointing out that I would much rather the bad guys go ahead and use public, known malware rather than the alternatives.
But this site will not only provide the bad guys with samples (which they'd be stupid to use) but also, in some cases, the wherewithal to improve their own malware to make it more effectively evade antivirus, PFW, etc "protections" commonly installed on their intended victims' machines. Making the samples (at least of viruses) freely available is entirely undesirable and ethically indefensiblt, but making the (detailed) analysis of _any_ "clever", "advanced" or otherwise "useful" malware technique publicly available, we have the supposed good guys openly assisting (especially) the less clueful bad guys. That is a very bad thing and turns the purported "good guys", and especially those providing the mechanism of that assistance, into contributory bad guys _despite_ the best of their good intentions in setting up the system... Without vetting the site's membership, Val is providing much more valuable assistance to the bad guys than the good guys will ever get. Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!], (continued)
- Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 27)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] val smith (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Joe Jaroch (Tera Innovations, Inc.) (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Nick FitzGerald (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] val smith (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Blue Boar (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Randy Abrams (Dec 28)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Nick FitzGerald (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Dude VanWinkle (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Blue Boar (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Dude VanWinkle (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Nick FitzGerald (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Blue Boar (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Blue Boar (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Get your computer viruses here!] Nick FitzGerald (Dec 30)