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Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:57:40 +0200
Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much better place without them and whoever said them in the first place... On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> wrote:
On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote: Resorting to personal attacks? Nice. Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a website? Growing pot? I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever is responsible to do a fix. I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys. Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my occupation is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum... You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have contains. But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions (of course there's wikipedia...) On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com>wrote:Christian Sciberras, I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad smalltalk. Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge? btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and in addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu. -- joro On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to gosomewherefurther in the chain. Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank thatrefusedto give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as productive. Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a right in the first place...).And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure ofresponsibilityin the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but thelargestshare of responsibility lies with the names listed below. The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you abottleof beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime ofit,most people are decent human beings and would do the same. Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subwaywouldthank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things offyou.Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, otherthanmyself. Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little moreeffort.For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they didlegallywrong. Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The "99% protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongsbypointing at jailed people. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>wrote:On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote: I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get"obscenelyrich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun ofit.So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok? Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of ruining others' for the fun of it. What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) arecryingout loud against some people they're highly envious of with the excuseof"the depression". Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about by these same people! And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure ofresponsibilityin the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but thelargestshare of responsibility lies with the names listed below. If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives for people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blamehim.Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well How many times in your life have you paid back something you receivedbymistake and which wasn't yours? While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a wrong, Ijustcan't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the"99%" arebig-time hypocrites. That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime ofit,most people are decent human beings and would do the same. On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how someofthe 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing outnamesinstead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up tillnow?> > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006**Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England **Bill Clinton, former US president* *Gordon Brown, prime minister* *George W Bush, former US president* *Senator Phil Gramm **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin **Lewis Ranieri **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch* *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat) **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07* Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guyhttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.htmlAnd while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so manyothernames on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a profitoffof the disaster.> _______________________________________________Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. 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