Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

[Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>]

Yes, since humanity is a great success in a fragmented form. Not.

Then again, there are those that believe the end of the world will come when
man stops fighting with each other, so I suppose even culture and tradition
are against me on this one.

Fair enough, I don't quite care about the damage some are inflicting to
themselves. Which brings us back to the "99%" discussion; some seem they're
doing some form of good by making us redact a few steps in the course of
progress.





On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Darren Martyn <
d.martyn.fulldisclosure () gmail com> wrote:

> ...And what, exactly, gave the US the right to be there in the first place?
> Non existant WMD? Human rights? The US has to stop seeing themselves as
> international police.
>
> /ends miniature rant
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com>wrote:
>
> > Obviously not.
> >
> > Again.  They looked like they had weapons.  The pilots weren't
> > wondering...they were sure they saw weapons.
> >
> > They then engaged what appeared to be a clear threat to other US
> > forces nearby.
> >
> > The pilots acted exactly as they should have, given the information
> > presented to them.  This was a war zone, not a country club.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Except that they weren't obviously unarmed.
> > > >
> > > > Not only where they not obviously unarmed, they appeared to be armed.
> > > >
> > > > Look at the 4 minute mark.
> > > >
> > > > That sure as shit looks like an RPG.
> > > >
> > > > The crew thought the group was armed.  Ergo, they were cleared to
> > engage.
> > > > This wasn't a war crime...and the allegation that it was just makes
> > > > people look ridiculous.
> > > Listen to yourself: we weren't sure if they were armed, so we killed
> > > them. Put yourself and your family in the shoes of the dead folks. Its
> > > not a comfortable place to be, is it?
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:44 PDT, Mike Hale said:
> > > > > > Seriously!  Think about the injustice of having American helicopters
> > > > > > engage armed individuals shadowing American soldiers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shooting at "armed individuals" is one thing.  If it's "civilians and
> > Reuters
> > > > > employees" who *aren't* obviously armed, it's something else.
> > > >
> > > >
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