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Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"
From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:02:01 -0500
On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
Resorting to personal attacks? Nice.Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a website? Growing pot?I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever is responsible to do a fix.I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys.Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my occupation is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum...You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have contains.But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions(of course there's wikipedia...)On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com <mailto:guninski () guninski com>> wrote:Christian Sciberras, I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad smalltalk. Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge? btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and in addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu. -- joro On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote: > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok? > > No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making > profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go somewhere > further in the chain. > Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that refused > to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as > productive. > Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they > decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a > right in the first place...). > > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of responsibility > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the largest > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below. > > The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a bottle > of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't. > > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it, > most people are decent human beings and would do the same. > > Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway would > thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things off you. > Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, other than > myself. > > > Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more effort. > For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did legally > wrong. > Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The "99% > protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongs by > pointing at jailed people. > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org <mailto:laurelai () oneechan org>> wrote: > > > On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote: > > > > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get "obscenely > > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun of it. > > > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok? > > > > Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of ruining > > others' for the fun of it. > > > > What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) are crying > > out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the excuse of > > "the depression". > > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about by > > these same people! > > > > > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of responsibility > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the largest > > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below. > > > > > > > > > > If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives for > > people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame him. > > > > Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well > > > > How many times in your life have you paid back something you received by > > mistake and which wasn't yours? > > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a wrong, I just > > can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the "99%" are > > big-time hypocrites. > > > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it, > > most people are decent human beings and would do the same. > > > > > > On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how some of > > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing out names > > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up till now? > > > > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006 > > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England > > **Bill Clinton, former US president* > > *Gordon Brown, prime minister* > > *George W Bush, former US president* > > *Senator Phil Gramm > > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist > > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's > > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group > > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss > > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss > > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss > > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive > > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin > > **Lewis Ranieri > > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products > > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss > > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial > > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch* > > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss > > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat) > > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister > > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07* > > > > > > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy > > http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html > > And while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so many other > > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a profit off > > of the disaster. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Lets keep the discussion above the belt guys ok?
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