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Re: What the f*** is going on?
From: Chris Evans <scarybeasts () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:35:31 -0800
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf () coredump cx>wrote:
Also, I would say that even though randomly prodding exec arguments with As isn't so elite, the space of "the non-web" is much more deep and much more complex than the space of "the web"..I think that sentiment made sense 8-10 years ago, but today, it's increasingly difficult to defend. I mean, we are at a point where casual users can do without any "real" applications, beyond just having a browser. And in terms of complexity, the browser itself is approaching the kernel, and is growing more rapidly. Yes, web app vulnerabilities are easier to discover.
Web app security is beginners' security -- surely everyone knows that? Those with talent graduate on to low-level vulns (mem corruptions, kernel vulns, etc). </troll> Cheers Chris That's partly
because of horrible design decisions back in the 1990s, and partly because we're dealing with greater diversity, more complex interactions, and a much younger codebase. Plus, we had much less time to develop systemic defenses. /mz _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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