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Re: Congratulations Andrew


From: T Biehn <tbiehn () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:58:30 -0400

So what grants you legal access to aol.com (HTTP port 80 get / )?
I'm confused? Does search engine indexing grant legal access to online
resources?

-Travis

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Thor (Hammer of God)
<Thor () hammerofgod com>wrote:

By the same logic, then yes you would.  Which is why the statement “if a
system has no password, then you have a legal right to whatever data is on
it” is complete horse hockey.



Don’t take technical advice from your lawyer, and don’t take legal advice
from people on security lists.



t



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By that same standard.. if you leave your house unlocked.... does that give
someone the right to enter it?

just my thoughts
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:58:27 +0200
From: uuf6429 () gmail com
To: tbiehn () gmail com
CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew

Reminds be of Al Capone and tax evasion ;-)

Good ol' America.



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, T Biehn <tbiehn () gmail com> wrote:

Yes.
The FBI was investigating the AT&T incident, presumably the AT&T incident
was what the fed were serving against.
What possible valid search warrant could be executed? There was no hack,
breach, illegal access of data, or anything else for that matter.

If you leave a system online with no password which allows you to scrape
content you have a legal right to scrape that content.

-Travis



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:09:22 EDT, T Biehn said:

I doubt the search warrant will hold up in court.

Do you have any actual basis for saying that?  Sure, the warrant might be
bullshit, it might be solid - the article doesn't give us enough info
either
way to tell.

"Auernheimer was also arrested in March for giving a false name to law
enforcement officers responding to a parking complaint."

Sad.  The dude may have the intelligence to pull the hack, but not have the
wisdom to not dig a hole deeper. Just man up and take the frikking parking
ticket. ;)



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