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Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

From: "Biz Marqee" <biz.marqee () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:51:57 +1100
Nobody on the list wants YOU so I don't see how you can justify what people
want to see as your argument for not retaliating.

Ill fuck you 'til you love me, faggot.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:31 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:


why should i respond to your off-topic personal jabs? all it would do
is start a flame war and im not into that. im performing self control
and restraint by not responding to your personal jabs, nobody on the
list wants a flame war based on personal jabs, so im not going to feed
it. im reading everything you say, im not ignoring it. if you choose
to be against me and not with me is your choice that you make, there
is nothing else for me to add on the topic.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee () gmail com> wrote:


I could care less about metasploit, all it does is help the kiddies.. but
that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Software is knowledge and

knowledge

should be free, but that is not the issue here. The issue is that you are

a

bullshitting drug abuser who's child like demeanor wont allow him to even
acknowledge bad things written about him. You are performing the internet
equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "nana i cant
hear you" in an attempt to make the situation go away.

So you unknowledgable, untalented, unemployed junkie.. do you have

anything

relevant to what I asked to contribute or are you going to just ignore it
like the pussy that you are?

Also, dont try and portray yourself like a free thinking martyr... your
opinions are just rehashed idea sparked off cnet news comments and

various

other sources of "security information". Anyone who knows even the

slightest

thing about information security knows you and your idealist views are a
joke.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:46 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:


you seem like an hd moore/metasploit fan boy pissed off that i don't
respect him or like his metasploit software. n3td3v doesn't respect
people like the sheep do, i think for myself, have opinions about
other white hats that may not be in support of them. get used to it
bozo.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee () gmail com>

wrote:

Acting like the child that he is, n3td3v continues to ignore questions
posed
to him. How can he be such an avid debater over the legality of things
like
metasploit, 0day auctions and similarly themed bullshit threads when

he

completely disregards drug laws? How do you intend to lobby people to
listen
to you when you are not a law abiding citizen yourself? You have no
credibility in the eyes of the law, so don't psuedo threaten people
trying
to appear like you have some government backing. You have proven

beyond

doubt that you dont, because the government doesnt listen to drug

taking

internet heroes, such as yourself.

So enough with the bullshit.. FUCK OFF AND DIE.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:


i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by
what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure
anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way,
i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned
about your health. cheers.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Ureleet <ureleet () gmail com> wrote:

first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets

get

that out of the way right there.

second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go

to

some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day
period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish.  then

compare

and contrast that against how many exploits have come out in the 24
hours following the patch publish after people have had a chance to
do
bindiffs (u know what that means right white-hat?) against the
patches.  then, take all that data, draw some charts and graphs,
write
a whitepaper, and present it somewhere.

u know what thats called?  research.  real ppl do it.

u dont.  and that is why, u suck.  ta ta.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:34 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>

wrote:

so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be
helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest

hackers

could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't
logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what
the
realistic possibility was for a 5 day turn around from the day of
the
heads up until a patch is released. i just thought it was bad that
we
were giving the bad guys a 5 day head start, but never mind n3td3v
isn't logical so i must be wrong. scraping the 5 day head start
isn't
a good idea because n3td3v isn't logical? right, i threw away 10
years
of my life to not be logical...

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, waveroad waveroad
<waveroad () gmail com>
wrote:


You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want

to,

it's not
for that your point will be valuable.
And actually it is not, also this is about logic.

See you're wrong again.

Get the fuck out of here.








2008/11/6, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>:


i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no
experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is
correct.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee <

biz.marqee () gmail com>

wrote:

Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because
you
have
all
these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your
ideas
only
make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality
most
will
fail.




On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com



wrote:


blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore

the

negative responses i get.





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