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Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle
From: Nico Golde <fd () ngolde de>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:20:47 +0100
Hi Paul, * Paul Sebastian Ziegler <psz () observed de> [2007-11-10 18:33]:
as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law today that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This includes phone calls as well as all internet connections.
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The mechanism is quite easy: It searches Google for random words and picks random pages among the results, then spiders from there (well it is spidering except that it only follows one URL at a time within a session thus simulating a user).
How would this help with stored phone calls? How would this help with the general problem? While I think it is nice that you think about doing something against this I don't really like your idea since you totally miss that traffic does not only mean HTTP so I don't really see any point of not just using gpg,tor, etc. You write "This way it is very hard to tell which connections are actually made by the user thus generating plausible deniability." on your website and I also don't think this is valid because noone cares if it was you or an application creating this traffic, it also does not prevent people to store your traffic and I would aspect them to have pretty good methods to devide important and unimportant traffic ;) Cheers Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: nion () jabber ccc de | GPG: 0x73647CFF Forget about that mouse with 3/4/5 buttons - gimme a keyboard with 103/104/105 keys!
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