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Re: This crap needs to stop
From: Eliah Kagan <degeneracypressure () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:55:00 -0500
Duncan Lindley wrote (off-list):
On the subject of embarrassing errors; Sony purchased a root kit ala DRM software from first 4 internet. --- Duncan Lindley Systems Administrator Virgin Blue Airlines Pty Ltd 07 3295 5010 0423 025 150
Yes, this is an embarrassing error on my part. It has next to nothing to do with what I am trying to say, but it is embarrassing nonetheless. It is particularly embarrasing because I starred the word "wrote" for emphasis, even though whether or not Sony wrote the rootkit (they did not) was not central to my argument. I apologize for insinuating that Sony paid their own programmers to write the rootkit instead of paying programmers from another company to use it--that is, paid them for the act of writing it. However, in the context of this discussion, this is a very small error, because the point I am driving at is intent. I-O Data almost certainly did not know that its hard drives were infected with the Backdoor.Win32.Tompai trojan. Sony almost certainly knew that their CDs were infected with a rootkit, because they paid money for the rootkit--they authorized it. If there is substantial evidence that I-O Data was involved with the writing of Backdoor.Win32.Tompai or that they paid royalties to copyright-holders of the intellectual property associated with Backdoor.Win32.Tompai, then I withdraw my claim that I-O Data was not acting maliciously. Otherwise, that claim stands. -Eliah _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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