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Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd)
From: "Jamie C. Pole" <jpole () jcpa com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:20:39 -0600
I'm not at all scared.As far as the rest of your point, I actually agree with you. I see no reason why the government needs to know which books you are reading, and I don't believe the government should know how long you are talking to your "psychic-phone-sex" operator in London (I would suggest that you look for one in the USA, though - the transatlantic phone calls can get expensive).
On the other hand, if you are talking to a known or suspected terrorist, or if you are a known or suspected terrorist, I believe it is absolutely the government's responsibility to know what is going on. I know that there is a very specific provision that allows access to this information legally, but we do not know the circumstances that prompted the extralegal wiretaps. There may have been a very good reason why these particular circumstances were handled this way.
A blanket condemnation without all of the facts is just as wrong as a blanket justification without all of the facts.
Jamie On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:11 PM, Dude VanWinkle wrote:
what about this point? Just cause you are scared, doesnt mean you need trounce on my liberties in a vain attempt to protect yourself. You arent even protecting yourself: just cause GWB knows what books I rented from the library or how long I cry on the phone to my psychic-phone-sex operator in London doesnt mean Bin Laden cant ship a nuke right up your ass via freighter. ? -jp
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