Re: violent words

[Steve Kudlak <stevex11 () sbcglobal net>]

y0himba wrote:

> You know, I am brand new to this list, I an expected to find good
> intelligent discussion as well as information that up until now I only had
> an idea existed.  I am no where near as intelligent as most of the people on
> this list, but I am scraping the surface and learning.
>
> Seeing all the ego fueled idiocy going on here is very disappointing.  We
> live in an age where we all know that violence and power corrupt.  To see
> this kind of childish posturing coming from two supposedly intelligent
> individuals is a disgrace.
>
> I would recommend that they be removed from the list, and banned from it(
> correct term?), but I have not been here long enough and don't really have
> the right to request such things.
>
> Hopefully the truly enlightened and intelligent, curious individuals on this
> list will take this matter into their hands and do something about it.  I
> would hope that the individuals who act this way, both the two currently,
> and any future persons who would act in this manner, see how egotistical and
> small they appear to others, and correct their actions.
>
> You are not winning anything or coming out on top, you are just lowering
> yourselves and causing people to nod their heads because they are ashamed of
> your behavior.
>
> Thanks to all that post to this list and contribute some of the most
> fascinating information I have read on the Internet.  I really appreciate
> your efforts and discoveries.
>
> -y0himba
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Peer Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:45 PM
> Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] violent words
>
> <snip>
> [some violent words between two people on this list] </snip>
>
> I am new to this list.
>
> I suppose the goal of "full disclosure" is to make this world a better
> place.
>
> So I'm quite astonished about the tone I'm reading in the last mails.
>
> Is this the general tone here ? I never read such a thing before. Maybe in
> films, but this is real life, and you are real persons.
>
> Why are you doing this to yourself? Is any of you feeling happier talking
> like this to your fellow human beings?
> And in front of probably thousands of people?
> Is this the kind of world you want to create?
>
> I guess I somewhat understand both your point of view and what your friction
> is about, but I think if you try and put yourself in the shoes of your
> diskussion partner, you could figure out some way to get along better. I'm
> sure you can do that.
> I appreciate franc words which are better than keeping silent about
> injustice, but I also suppose that gentle and humble -- everybody has some
> dark sides -- words will generally work better.
>
> Cheers
> Peer
>
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Usually if one let's arguments burn themselves out and skips their 
subject lines then they go away. I get distressed with yahoo groups when 
the owners and modeators are essentially dictators. Sometimes I think so 
aee inexperienced or something. So I hope this will go away after awhile 
and I am for being patient and not responsding to infurated email and 
hoping things calm down.  I guess I should take a peak at this stuff. I 
used to moderate/SYSOP several sorts of things and these things come up 
a lot.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve


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