Re: J. A. Terranson

["KF (lists)" <kf_lists () digitalmunition com>]

Great... thanks for the extra commentary. Now how about you both shut 
the fuck up and disclose something, other than the fact that you are 
both douche knobs.
-KF


ericscher () mac com wrote:

> I did a dumb thing today.
>
> I decided to be nice to someone who didn't deserve it and correct his
> mistakes offline so that he wouldn't have to look like a dumbass in public.
> In return, I got an earful of profanity. Honestly, I should have known
> better.
>
> I've watched Terranson participate on this list long enough to know that
> he's not merely rude and obnoxious, he's mean. Bottom line, when you're
> dealing with someone who isn't a particularly good person; there's no point
> in trying to treat them like a human being. Like the man said; it wastes
> your time and annoys the pig.
>
> I get it. This is a place where he gets to feel like a big man. A tough
> guy. Fine. Whatever floats his boat.
>
> HOWEVER, that's no excuse for:
>
> a) Acting like a JackAss. (Is that what the J.A. stands for?)
> b) PUTTING OUT BAD INFORMATION.
>
> For the record, Kid... (Act like a child, you'll get treated like one.)
>
> 1) An Autonomous System is a network or group of networks under the control
> of a single administrator and/or administrative policy.
>
> 2) A "Multihomed" network is one which has more than one WAN connection to
> one or more service providers.
>
> 3) The one has nothing to do with the other. ALL Autonomous systems are NOT
> multihomed. In fact, the vast majority are not. If you actually understood
> what an autonomous system was, you'd know that. But then, you wouldn't have
> put your foot in your mouth.
>
> 4) Access Control Lists ARE traffic shaping devices. A device is a
> contrivance, invention or technique serving a particular purpose. In this
> case, the purpose being served is the movement of packets. The packets may
> be moved to another port or they may be moved to "the trash". The ACL tells
> the machine to examine the packet based on certain defined criteria that
> the administrator chooses and make decisions about the movement of the
> packet based on that criteria. This may serve a security purpose or it may
> not. 
>
> 5) Access Control Lists are constructed in a particular manner; complex to
> simple. Specific to general. They don't HAVE to be written that way, but
> they should be and there is a damned good reason for it. Once a packet
> matches a particular line, the packet is moved. It may go to another port
> or it may get dropped; but the point is that it doesn't stick around for a
> second analysis. If you put a deny statement about a particular subnet
> ABOVE a permit statement for a particular host FROM that subnet, it's too
> late. The packet from that host has already been dumped. But hey, if you
> don't mind having a buggy network because you insist on doing things YOUR
> way, go ahead and write your ACL's any way you want. Not my problem.
>
>
> As has already been pointed out, this is a subject better addressed in a
> textbook. Whether you want to learn Cisco ACLs, iptables or whatever; you
> need some in depth subject matter. This is a complex subject and one in
> which you CLEARLY need remedial study.
>
>
> One last thing, Kid...
>
> You said that you could suggest some books for me?
>
> If those are the same books that you got YOUR monumentally incorrect
> information out of, no thanks.
>
> I actually know something about this subject, and I'd like to keep it that
> way.
>
>
> You may now feel free to have the last word. I'd know that sort of thing is
> important to someone like you.
>
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