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Re: Cisco IOS Shellcode Presentation
From: "Edge, Ronald D" <edge () indiana edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 08:41:33 -0500
Kohl's owns the Internet? Kohl's reserves the right to read my email I send my mom just because it's on the Internet?
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The legal precedent for this is essentially "He who onws the network, owns the data" (with respect to an employee/employeer relationship). It's a bit different for commercial ISPs.
If your mom works at Kohls, don't email her there unless you want it read (unless you PGP/gnuPG it). Then again, they could just have
Spector
installed on the PC to capture screenshots/keystrokes of her at her "company computer" (also completely legal).
~Mike.
Because of legal issues for corporations, both private and public, this is expanding even to phones. New policy here at IU effective July 1 states that all staff using cell phones must buy their own devices and service provider contracts. They will receive a flat monthly supplemental stipend (I get $75.00/mo, I have a Blackberry that communicates with a BES server as well as phone service) to defray the costs of the use of their service for IU business. It is general knowledge that one of the prime motivators for this policy is to remove phone call content and logs from the various laws that cover public information and its disclosure under open access laws covering public institutions. Same is rapidly being applied to email. Over the past few years I have migrated 98% of my personal email, including all that has anything to do with my business interests, consulting, etc. that are not related to my primary employment, to my own email server and accounts I run off site, in order to shield them from any and all possible exposure/legal consequences. Any business owns full rights over the email services they offer their employees to do their job with. Bottom line. Ron. Ronald D. Edge Director of Information Systems Indiana University Intercollegiate Athletics edge () indiana edu (812)855-9010 http://iuhoosiers.com "When nothing seems to help, I go and look at a stonecutter hammering away at his rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two, and I know it was not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before." _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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