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RE: DOS all platforms
From: "Shawn Nunley" <shawn () nunleys com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:24:30 -0800
Well, this is no legend. Back around 1995 (I think) I was issued a brand new IBM ThinkPad 701C. These were pretty cool systems, but it turned it out could be utterly destroyed by a simple virus. The Win/CIH virus wasn't so bad on most machines, but somehow this laptop managed to have its entire brains obliterated (BIOS) by the virus, including the code that enabled you to write *new* BIOS. So, the only remedy was to have an entirely new system board installed. IBM actually did fix this under warranty, on site. I'm guessing they did this because the design was fundamentally flawed in that for the first time, all of the BIOS (all of it) was read/write. In any case, this is a case of a virus destroying hardware. The system board had to have it's BIOS chips de-soldered and reinstalled, Here's a news account. http://www.internetwk.com/news/news0721-4.htm Shawn Nunley, CISSP -----Original Message----- From: Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah [mailto:rslade () sprint ca] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:31 PM To: Brent Colflesh; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] DOS all platforms Ah, dear, dear, dear. The old legends never really die ...
Exibar wrote:Causing Physical damage to equipment???? Good luck.... although waybackwhen there was a program that would set the refresh rate on your monitor very very high and it could cause the monitor to die.... Doesn't happen anymore though :-)
Good luck about covers it. The monitor business was not the refresh rate, but the scanning rate. On one particular graphics card (one of the Hercules line, if my failing memory serves) /monitor combo you could set the rate to zero in both directions, thus allowing you to burn out the phosphors in one particular spot. It would take some considerable time to seriously damage a large chuck of screen real estate. Never was included in any malware that I encountered ... From: "Brent Colflesh" <Brent.Colflesh () ulticom com> Date sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:00:09 -0500
I also recall rumours of a virus in the ~1995 time frame which would cause overexcursion of the r/w heads in the hard drive, causing the heads to crash into the side of the drive.
Again, never used in any malware. This was widely used as an example of an action that *could* cause hardware damage. In fact, it was hardly universal. Some old 5.25" drives would lose alignment if the heads were repeatedly banged against the stop. On the other hand, on some drives it was the standard way to get the drive to allow you to access and format tracks outside the normal range, so that you could cram more data onto a disk ... ====================== rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () sun soci niu edu "If you do buy a computer, don't turn it on." - Richards' 2nd Law "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94663-2 "Viruses Revealed" 0-07-213090-3 "Software Forensics" 0-07-142804-6 ============= for back issues: [Base URL] site http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/ alternate site http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade/ CISSP refs: [Base URL]mnbksccd.htm PC Security: [Base URL]mnvrrvsc.htm Security Dict.: [Base URL]secgloss.htm Security Educ.: [Base URL]comseced.htm Book reviews: [Base URL]mnbk.htm [Base URL]review.htm Partial/recent: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techbooks/ Security Educ.: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comseced/ Review mailing list: send mail to techbooks-subscribe () egroups com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- DOS all platforms Chris Brown (Jan 21)
- Re: DOS all platforms hicks (Jan 21)
- Re: DOS all platforms Exibar (Jan 22)
- Re: DOS all platforms Mark Renouf (Jan 23)
- RE: DOS all platforms Brent Colflesh (Jan 23)
- RE: DOS all platforms Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jan 24)
- RE: DOS all platforms Shawn Nunley (Jan 24)
- Re: DOS all platforms Exibar (Jan 22)
- Re: DOS all platforms Matt Burnett (Jan 23)
- Re: DOS all platforms hicks (Jan 21)
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