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Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs () roaringpenguin com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:37:19 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Exibar wrote:
But not 100% safe though... there are Linux viruses,
Such as ... ?
what about all those e-mails that try to steal my SS# and CC#'s?
Never had one of those, because our anti-spam system blocks them.
Education is the key, not the OS that you run or don't run.
That's not entirely true; the OS makes a huge difference.
A default install of a modern Linux distro includes firewalling rules by default, and is fairly safe.
there aren't any holes in that Linux distro?
There are, but none are exploitable remotely on our systems.
there sure are, pleanty of them. Oh, so the Personal Firewall is protecting the user... interesting, aren't there Personal Firewalls for Windows OS's? Tons of them....
Linux has them built-in, and on modern distributions, turned on by default.
Because it is impossible to use Windows safely; the very design of the operating system is flawed. This is not just my opinion; it's also that of Bruce Schneier and many other people, some of whom lost their jobs
it IS possible to use Windows safely, with Education of the user.
It's probably also possible to weld safely while standing knee-deep in gasoline. You just have to be really careful. Or you can start with a secure foundation and then add user-education.
I don't buy that you block them ONLY to save disk space and stop annoying messages... don't buy it at all....
I don't care what you buy or don't buy, but it's the truth. We don't run Windows, so we aren't susceptible to the viruses in the wild.
We have since 1999, and haven't had any problem. If you don't useWindows, > you don't need anti-virus software.
Ignorance is bliss they say... If you honestly and truely believe what you say, more power to you. I honestly hope that nothing bad happens to your systems due to a virus outbreak that A/V software would have taken care of....
There is no A/V virus designed to protect Linux systems. There is A/V software that runs on Linux, but it's designed to catch Windows viruses. I've been in the computer security business for a while now; I think I know what I'm doing. Regards, David. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause, (continued)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 15)
- Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Mary Landesman (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Gregory A. Gilliss (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)