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Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:17:01 -0600 (CST)
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, David F. Skoll wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 tlarholm () pivx com wrote:I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall Day. http://www.personalfirewallday.org/That Web site is utterly disingenuous. Rather than giving low-value information, how about high-value information that actually protects people: 1) Don't use Windows. 2) Don't use Outlook.
this only works in an env whence M$ does not have the power to force all PC vendors to *have* to include unsafe apps and OS's on their systems rather then put out alternatives.
Our company uses neither Windows nor Outlook, and although we do have a firewall, we do not use anti-virus software.
except perhaps for the mac OS, which is not available I beleive for the PC users, there's not really another OS available that has the ease of use./install/and click and play capabilities that windows tries to provide, so, few corp env's will go another route for the desktop, as they are already far too commited in present envestments to consider it. And mom and pop will never get printers, cameras, and various other devices like scanners to work in any other OS's, withouth having their skilled kids and grandkids devote some time to educate and advise. But, seems none of then are willing to offer mom & pop their time, it;s to 'valuable' to even help them get a bit of protection in place and they are of far higher value mailing lists of complaints about how imperfect their world is...
Of course, the sponsors of the site (Microsoft and a bunch of anti-virus vendors) can hardly see it as being in their interest to actually create a secure computing environment.
This a shame, but, tis the world we bought into <smile> Thanks, Ron DuFresne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause tlarholm (Jan 14)
- Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause KF (Jan 14)
- Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause cdowns (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 15)
- Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Mary Landesman (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Gregory A. Gilliss (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)