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RE: Zone Alarm
From: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:03:57 -0500
Yep, and I can assure you that when the firmware update fails (and it will) they will not have a clue what to do next. I've had this happen to me, so I know that it occurs, and restoring the router to functionality was not a task for the neophyte. There *are* cases where "not so great" security is better than "really great" simply because "really great" won't get used and "not so great" is therefore better (than nothing.) It's all well and good that experts can use expert tools, but "normal" users are often better off with something simple to use and easy to understand, even if it isn't the latest, greatest fandangle. Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ -----Original Message----- From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:smcmahon () eiv com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:20 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Zone Alarm Although "fails open" is a pretty powerful argument against software firewalls, it's probably easier to get a user to download and install a new copy of Zone Alarm (especially if it has some kind of auto-update feature, which I dunno since I don't use it), than it is to get them to download a new firmware image for their hardware router and flash it. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- Re: Zone Alarm, (continued)
- Re: Zone Alarm Dave Howe (Jun 13)
- Re[2]: Zone Alarm 3APA3A (Jun 13)
- Re: Zone Alarm BlueRaven (Jun 16)
- Re: Zone Alarm Sven Hoexter (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Shawn McMahon (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Cedric Blancher (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm daniel.clemens (Jun 04)
- RE: Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Michael Reilly (Jun 04)
- [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Kurt Seifried (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Michael Reilly (Jun 04)
- RE: Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Shawn McMahon (Jun 05)
- RE: Zone Alarm JT (Jun 05)
- Re: Zone Alarm Shawn McMahon (Jun 05)
- RE: Zone Alarm Robert J. Liebsch (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: Zone Alarm Eric N. Valor (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Michael Reilly (Jun 04)
- RE: Re: Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 04)
- RE: Zone Alarm Ben Tyson-Norrman (Jun 05)
- AW: Zone Alarm Michael Linke (Jun 05)
- RE: Zone Alarm Myers, Marvin (Jun 05)
- Re: Zone Alarm Stephane Nasdrovisky (Jun 13)