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RE: Zone Alarm
From: "JT" <ptourvi1 () twcny rr com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:15:13 -0400
Again, using ZA puts the choices in the uninformed users hands, they decide whether to use it or not, give them the router and you have taken that choice away. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Shawn McMahon Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:37 AM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Zone Alarm On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 04:03:57PM -0500, Schmehl, Paul L said:
There *are* cases where "not so great" security is better than "really great" simply because "really great" won't get used and "not so great" is therefore better (than nothing.) It's all well and good that experts
And I would submit that most of us here are in fact guilty of that; how many of us have at least one password, somewhere, that's ~8 characters, mostly letters, as opposed to 128 random alphanumerics? Who here has a house with a deadbolt and an alarm system, but no armed guards? A car that you park in parking lots, with no bomb-sniffing dog going under it before you get in? Security that won't get used isn't security, it's theory. It belongs in classrooms and labs. Security is a process, as well, not a binary flag. It's not "exit code 1, insecure" one day, and "exit code 0, secure" the next. -- Shawn McMahon | Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, EIV Consulting | that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any UNIX and Linux | hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure http://www.eiv.com| the survival and the success of liberty. - JFK _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- Re: Zone Alarm, (continued)
- Re: Zone Alarm BlueRaven (Jun 16)
- Re: Zone Alarm Sven Hoexter (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Shawn McMahon (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Cedric Blancher (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm daniel.clemens (Jun 04)
- RE: Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Michael Reilly (Jun 04)
- [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Kurt Seifried (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Michael Reilly (Jun 04)
- RE: Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Shawn McMahon (Jun 05)
- RE: Zone Alarm JT (Jun 05)
- Re: Zone Alarm Shawn McMahon (Jun 05)
- RE: Zone Alarm Robert J. Liebsch (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: Zone Alarm Eric N. Valor (Jun 04)
- Re: Zone Alarm Michael Reilly (Jun 04)
- RE: Re: Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 04)
- RE: Zone Alarm Ben Tyson-Norrman (Jun 05)
- AW: Zone Alarm Michael Linke (Jun 05)
- RE: Zone Alarm Myers, Marvin (Jun 05)
- Re: Zone Alarm Stephane Nasdrovisky (Jun 13)
- Re: Zone Alarm Larry W. Cashdollar (Jun 13)
- Re: Zone Alarm Larry W. Cashdollar (Jun 13)
- Re: Zone Alarm Larry W. Cashdollar (Jun 13)