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RE: Destroying PCs remotely?


From: "JT" <ptourvi1 () twcny rr com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:35:39 -0400

Well he could have said anything other than copyright violator, I still
would not change my view. Yes, spam is horrid, but nobody should have the
right to just up and destroy something because they THINK they are right.
Besides that, as many people have noted, it also has to do a lot with even
enabling a technology like that. It wouldn't be two days before some person
figured out how to mass kill machines. We have too many laws as it is. It's
already illegal to violate copyright yet we keep adding more laws. Now we
contradict ourselves by having fair use on one side, but DMCA on the other,
and to make a fair use copy of some stuff, you HAVE to go around copy
protection thus violating the DMCA. It's getting scary out there.

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On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:49:44PM +0100, John.Airey () rnib org uk said:

Your constitution says (Amendment V) "No person shall ... 
be deprived of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". 

How you can have due process when any warnings will be on 
the PC that has
been destroyed? Unless of course you find out the person's 
address. If you

You can't.  But off-the-cuff comments essentially wishing doom on
people you don't like aren't violations of the Constitution.  When we
make them against spammers, we view it as justifiable 
frustation.  When
Hatch makes them against copyright violators, folks come out of the
woodwork spewing venom.  Some of them, ironically, calling for the
destruction of his PC without due process.  Hatch wasn't introducing a
bill, he was bitching about people doing something illegal that he
personally disagrees with, and that has a potential direct 
effect on him
since he holds some copyrights.

If he'd said "spammer" instead of "copyright violator" we'd all be
cheering him on.  Instead, you're making statements like "people like
him give Christians a bad name", which is really ironic in an email
signed with an anti-Evolution sig.


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