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Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts?
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 11:33:06 -0400
Matt Curtin wrote:
It seems that it would be a standard communications security problem. NSA presumably has crypto to send messages safely over cables they don't own, airwaves, and all kinds of other stuff.
There are movements afoot to potentially completely re-write the notion of black networking and how classified materials are handled. I tried to allude to some of this in my earlier post on this thread. ;) In other words, there are forces arguing that maybe it might be OK to mix classified and SBU networks and it might even be OK to shift away from "need to know" toward "push to consumer" information architectures. Such changes would be profound in implication, results, and in their impact on how networking and computing is done within the DOD and IC. As you can probably imagine, these issues are technical as well as highly charged political footballs that touch on organizational pride, budgets, and missions. The 9/11 commission report and the political fallout from that, as well as the election year, are more likely to affect what happens than anything to do with technology and/or what makes sense. There are so many forces at play it's impossible to even sense them all at this time, or to guess what will win and what will lose. As with all of these intensely political turf-fights, we should expect to see "trial baloons" floated - and we should expect to see pre-emptive "media leaks" in which one agency leaks information to the press "BAD THING ABOUT TO HAPPEN" in a move for leverage. What was being said in the article was a journalist's re-interpretation of what a bureaucrat said about another agency's ideas. How accurate and unbiassed do you expect such reportage to be? As a citizen and taxpayer, I was horrified by the tiny toe-dip I took in researching how the government does its computing. Most Americans have no idea how dysfunctional bureaucracy really is, because - so far - it has managed to avoid collapsing under its own weight. If you want to truly horrify yourself on these topics, I have a reading list on: http://www.ranum.com/security/homeland_security/books some of these books were source material for my book on homeland security. Taken together, they're really really really really depressing reading. mjr. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts?, (continued)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Kevin Sheldrake (Aug 20)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Paul D. Robertson (Aug 22)
- RE: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Eugene Kuznetsov (Aug 22)
- RE: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Paul D. Robertson (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Christopher Hicks (Aug 20)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? George Capehart (Aug 23)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Paul D. Robertson (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Matt Curtin (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Christopher Hicks (Aug 23)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Chris Pugrud (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Kevin Sheldrake (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Kevin Sheldrake (Aug 20)