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Re: tunnel vs open a hole
From: George Capehart <capegeo () opengroup org>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:15:04 -0400
On Thursday 10 April 2003 03:48 pm, Paul Robertson wrote:
My "extremely poorly in crash tests" SUV did over $1500 in damage to the "well-qualified in crash tests" car that hit me last year[1]. The cover to my bumper was scraped in one place, and ideally I'd spend $100 fixing all the pretty plastic and making the bumper line up a little straighter. It hasn't rolled over yet either. That, I think is the base issue- just because it's *possible* to operate a well-run and well maintained server doesn't make that the default, and because some good portion of folks can do it, there's no real pressure to make servers that don't fall over the default because some "safty loons" are complaining that it might roll over.
There are many people whose SUVs haven't rolled over on them because they are good, careful and prudent drivers who drive defensively and don't take chances. Then there is the "It'll Never Happen to Me" group whose members may at some level, be cognitively aware of the possibility, but whose driving behavior is not impacted by the data. They're just plain lucky that it hasn't happened to them yet. They have their counterparts in the network/system administration world. This just lessens the pressure to make servers that don't fall over . . .
In this region (Washington, D.C. area) it's amusing to watch the first snow's SUV victims who've never driven on anything other than dry pavement come to the realization that the laws of physics still apply, and just because you *can* get up to 70MPH easily doesn't mean you can get back down to a stop, or negotiate a turn just as easily.
See the previous paragraph . . . :-) /g -- George Capehart PGP Key ID 63F0F642 at http://pgp.mit.edu "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug." -- Mark Knofler _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Duncan Sharp (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 14)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Duncan Sharp (Apr 14)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Duncan Sharp (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Gary Flynn (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Paul Robertson (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Paul Robertson (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 14)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Gary Flynn (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)