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Re: Recent Attacks
From: "Paul D. Robertson" <proberts () clark net>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:09:17 -0500 (EST)
On Sun, 20 Feb 100, Darren Reed wrote:
So are you suggesting that perhaps it is time software such as ISS, etc, to not only be made available with strict controls over which targets they can be used against (article about this went to bugtraq some time ago) but also be required for those buying the product/license keys in order to undertake such work ? I think this is almost a inevitable. I can't see why professionals would object to this - every `respectable' procession has some sort of official "badging" which is required before you practice in it.
I think it'll be as effective as export control of cryptographic software.
I'd go so far to say that if Joe Bloggs from the back blocks of Kansas bought ISS (who knows why) and got a license get for, say, 208.196.* and loaded it up on their new internet PC, you'd be about as happy as someone walking outside that grey area with a weapon in your personal space. (Well, ok, you probably pay someone who'd be upset about ISS being used like that, rather than you :-)
Anyone can buy a lathe, stock steel, etc. Packet generators are much easier to build than reliable accurate firearms (especially without trace.) I'm not saying the laws won't go there, I'm just questioning the effectiveness of doing so. "I'll give up my compiler when they pry my cold dead superblock from the root fs." Viruses have *clearly* cost more money over time, and yet I don't see the same outroar there. I'm not sure if that's due to market dynamics (it's a good business to be in the "antivirus" vendor space), or if it's something else, or maybe the sentencing this week is the start of that? Paul (But then people walking around me with firearms doesn't upset me as long as they aren't pointing them at me.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions proberts () clark net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." PSB#9280
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- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 20)
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- Re: Recent Attacks Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
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- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 23)
- Re: Recent Attacks Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
- RE: Recent Attacks Chris Crozier (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Claudio Telmon (Feb 24)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Michael Cassidy (Feb 23)
- Re: Recent Attacks Paul D. Robertson (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Paul D. Robertson (Feb 21)
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- Re: Recent Attacks Barrett G. Lyon (Feb 17)
- RE: Recent Attacks Stephen Seal (Feb 17)
- RE: Recent Attacks Lance Spitzner (Feb 17)
- Re: Recent Attacks Frank L. Heidt (Feb 17)