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Re: Scare Me !!


From: Ken Hardy <ken () bridge com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:23:23 -0500 (CDT)

I got a call from someone concerned that I was giving away my
(weak) security profile.  Fortunately, that's not the case; I
was saying what some people think, not what we've got
implemented (though I suppose this disclaimer won't stop the
script-kiddies from trying.)

I may have been overly dramatic in my examples, but it's a fact
that I'm constantly dealing w/ folks who don't understand the
battlefield.  Getting them to recognize that there's a war is
what I'm after.

The SANS Institute looks better than the last time I checked it
out.  (Or maybe it's not the same site I'm thinking of.)  I
might put together a page with links to that as well as to
phrack, 2600, rootshell, &c.  Any further suggestions along
those lines (or better) are still appreciated.

  - KH




On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Ken Hardy wrote:

I need to induce a healthy respect for Internet dangers into
some folks around here.  I know the dangers, or enough of them,
but it's wearing to try to educate one after another exec,
network tech, etc.

In addition to the regular sort of security literature, a list
of real-life (or very possible) security incidents that could
help foster a healthy respect for the potential dangers might
be real useful.  An internet shop of horrors website, perhaps.
I'd appreciate anything useful in this regard.

I'm trying to reach the sort of people who think that a) we
have a firewall so we're safe; b) a packet filter is a firewall
(even if all ports >1024 are open!); c) desktop modems are
nothing to worry about; d) we *need* to support the
impossible-to-defend protocols of the latest whiz-bang internet
app through the firewall; e) policy?  we don't need no stinkin'
policy; f) etc., etc., etc.

 -- KH






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