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RE: Network Traffic Violations


From: David Lang <dlang () diginsite com>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT)

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I am getting a cable modem in the next few weeks, several of my friends
already have them and they report theat there is NO security provided by
the cable company. This is fine with me as I plan to setup a 485/25 that I
have around as a firewall to protect myself.

David Lang


On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Ted Doty wrote:

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:04:49 -0400
From: Ted Doty <ted () iss net>
To: Rick Smith <rick_smith () securecomputing com>
Cc: firewall-wizards () nfr net
Subject: RE: Network Traffic Violations

At 12:01 PM 9/11/98 -0500, Rick Smith wrote:

[snip]

So, if Windows sharing uses LAN broadcast, then the LAN broadcast won't be
relayed unless the cable modem is really bone headed (not impossible, of
course). Since the local workstation can not find out its address on the
Internet, it can't fashion packets to automatically talk to other cable
modems in its "neighborhood" without some sort of broadcast.

So, does anyone remember how the reported problem worked? How does this
situation compare to it?

I'm afraid I can't remember the details, either, however:

1. I wouldn't count on the cable companies to implement any security
mechanisms correctly.  A rather dated document at catv.org described Media
One's "solution" - filter out the computer name, but not block access to
the share.  The report concluded:

      "Obviously, MediaOne officials have not spent enough quality time
       discussing this problem. Not only should cable operators forbid
       the use of file-sharing, but explore ways to permanently disable
       the option from Windows95 during cable modem installations. The
       issue with file-sharing is dangerous to the provider [liability],
       the subscriber and the industry."

      [6/9/97, www.catv.org/bbb-report/1997/arch-607.html]

Sounds like they're just blocking NetBios Name Table queries with router
access lists. If they bothered to turn it on.

2. If you have IP services enabled (duh - it's an ISP connection) then
someone could connect to port 139.  You would have to do more than just
double click on Network Neighborhood, but not much:

      ping (your subnet - get the address from your DHCP)
      C:\> NET VIEW \\(IP address you found)

I haven't checked this out personally, tho.  Anyone have a cable modem at home?

- Ted

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