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Re: ADFS Experience


From: Kevin Halgren <kevin.halgren () WASHBURN EDU>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:08:28 +0000

ADFS 3.0 is supposed to add a self-service password reset, though ADFS 3.0 and ADFS 2.0 seem to be fundamentally very 
different so I don’t know how much experience in ADFS 2.0 will translate.

We plan on putting up a self-service password reset through FIM, but because we had an immediate need when going live 
with Office 365, we set up a server using PWM (https://code.google.com/p/pwm/) which has worked quite well in the 
interim.

We set up ADFS 2.0 with our Office 365 instance.  One of the challenges, at least in 2.0, is high availability.  
Basically if you want high availability you’re going to have to put a load balancer in front of your ADFS servers.  The 
built-in software load balancer they ask you to configure in Windows isn’t very good and we’ve found it’s absolutely 
not VM friendly, and certainly doesn’t give you much in terms or high availability.  The Microsoft Exchange Team 
actually advises against using it in Exchange (article is a bit dated but given our experience still reasonably valid: 
http://www.stevieg.org/2010/11/exchange-team-no-longer-recommend-windows-nlb-for-client-access-server-load-balancing/ ).

I’m working on building an ADFS stack in Azure as a test to give us some capability for continued access if our site 
link goes down.  That includes in a Read-Only DC, ADFS server, and ADFS proxy all in a restricted private virtual 
network connected to ours via a VPN link.  Of course we’ll lock the systems down tight, encrypt storage, and ensure 
that only the ADFS proxy external IP address and port 443 are Internet accessible.

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Hiebert
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:11 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] ADFS Experience

I’ve been away from the management of it for a while, but I set up ADFS with office 365, and it worked OK. There’s no 
self-service account reset, etc, with ADFS, which was one of the main features that I personally found lacking. I found 
attempting to customize ADFS to be quite difficult, and I never was able to do it, though admittedly I wasn’t able to 
put as much into trying as I would have liked.

On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Thomas Carter <tcarter () AUSTINCOLLEGE EDU<mailto:tcarter () AUSTINCOLLEGE EDU>> wrote:

We are looking at implementing ADFS for use with both Office 365 as well as on-site Sharepoint 2013 (with Ellucian 
Portal more specifically). I’m looking for input from anyone who has implemented ADFS for either/both of those and what 
their experience has been. I’m also interested in the on-going maintenance and problems experienced managing ADFS.

Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564
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