Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

["Jones, Dan" <Dan.Jones () UMASSMED EDU>]

While I agree that campus wireless maps are useful, I am more comfortable when they are contained on an access 
controlled site as opposed to publicly displayed on Google. 

Here in Massachusetts we have similar weather conditions, but that does not stop people from driving to the school and 
sitting in their cars (rain or snow) while using campus (guest) wireless services. Granted, a lot of this use went away 
when we moved to 802.1x (registered users) and a minimal set of services for guest wireless, but it still exists. I 
don't see Google making that any better. 

Dan Jones
CISO
UMass Medical School



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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Berman, 
Mark
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:50 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

Michael,

I realize that for those of whose job includes security there is a responsibility to be a little paranoid, but this 
seems pretty harmless. Wearing another my hats of being responsible for the wireless network this seems very cool. They 
are offering to map the strength of our WiFi signal in the public areas of our campus. We don't intentionally provide 
wireless signal outdoors: here in the northeast there are only 2 weeks a year that the weather is conducive to sitting 
outside and working, otherwise it's too cold or it's raining or it's too sunny to see the screen! However a wireless 
heat map of the campus would be useful to students and useful to us to see if there are areas that we should pump up a 
bit. Most campuses have centrally controlled WiFi networks and I can't see any particular security risk to Google 
advertising the (after all) publicly viewable aspects of our networks.

Am I missing something?

 - Mark

From: "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <mschalip () CNM EDU<mailto:mschalip () CNM EDU>>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:16:19 -0400
Subject: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??


Hi Folks....

Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them to "map your campus" in detail - presumably, for student 
navigation purposes??  Here's the "agreement" that they want us to sign off on.  I have some basic concerns, but - then 
again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.  So - I thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what your 
collective wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized entry)....

Let me know what you all think....



Thanks,



Michael

Agreement
We (the "Property Owner", "Property Manager", or "Property Operator") hereby permit Google Inc. (through its employees, 
affiliates or agents) to enter the publicly accessible areas of the properties described above, at a time and in the 
manner directed by our designated contact person listed in the Signatory Information area below, to collect Location 
Information.

For the purposes of this agreement, "Location Information" means Wi-Fi access point MAC addresses (also known as 
BSSIDs); Wi-Fi access point properties (including signal strength); mobile handset-generated compass, gyroscope and 
accelerometer measurements; and other related information.

Google will abide by the property access rules specified by our designated contact person.

Google must have suitable insurance coverage or self-insure for all of Google's activities on the propert(ies).  Google 
will be responsible for all costs of its data collection, and will be the exclusive owner of all right, title and 
interest in all data collected on the proper(ties).

This letter does not give Google any intellectual property rights to our trademarks or logos.  Neither party will use 
the other's name, trademark or logo in any public statement without the other's permission.

We affirm that we are either the Property Owner, the Property Manager, or the Property Operator, and that we have full 
power and authority to grant you the permission above.


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