Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

[Greg Williams <gwillia5 () UCCS EDU>]

They sort of go through the buildings if your sidewalk goes through the building. 
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=safari&oe=UTF-8&hq=UCCS&hnear=Colorado+Springs,+El+Paso,+Colorado&t=m&vpsrc=0&fll=38.892235,-104.799786&fspn=0.013444,0.013518&layer=c&cbll=38.893395,-104.80032&panoid=JBX6tSrwFBh7MRpn2mt-Dg&cbp=13,249.15,,0,-0.41&ie=UTF8&ll=38.893209,-104.800319&spn=0.000656,0.001507&z=19&source=embed
 

Just turn around and go through our University Center and you'll see what I mean.  Here is also an article written when 
Google mapped our campus:  http://communique.uccs.edu/?p=959 

Greg Williams
IT Security Principal
University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
Website: http://www.uccs.edu/itsecure



-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Ken 
Connelly
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:02 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

I don't think they ride the trike inside the buildings, but I think they do ride it on the campus sidewalks.  I've been 
trying to remember a campus that I had seen on google maps that had been mapped this way, but so far I have been unable 
to recall what it was.

- ken

Jeff Moore wrote:
> So is the google trike R2D2? It carries the "Death Star" plans! ;)
>
> And it has three wheels just like R2. Cue the twilight zone music!
>
> jm
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jeff Moore <mail () jeffmoore com 
> <mailto:mail () jeffmoore com>> wrote:
>
>     One question for those that have been through this mapping
>     process. Is this like the google car where they will offer a
>     "street view" of the inside of your buildings or is it strictly
>     google maps and wifi mapping?
>
>     Thanks!
>
>     Jeff M
>
>
>     On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL
>     <mschalip () cnm edu <mailto:mschalip () cnm edu>> wrote:
>
>         Geez......I **love** sci-fi analogies......(I'm using this one, and
>         promise to give you full credit....;-)
>
>         M
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>          
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>         *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
>         [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>         <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Robert
>         Meyers
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:34 AM
>         *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>         <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
>         *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our
>         locations"....concerns??
>
>          
>
>         With tongue /loosely/ placed in cheek...
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>          
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>         If James Cameron were writing the screenplay for /The
>         Terminator/ today, would he use "Google" instead of "Skynet?"
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>          
>
>         "Hi. I'm from Google. Give us your permission to map
>         everything we want and use the data globally however we decide. 
>
>         'No' you say?
>
>         I'll be back."
>
>          
>
>         Bob
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>          
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>          
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>          
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>          
>
>         *Robert E. Meyers,  Ms.Ed.**
>         *Manager, Security Awareness
>           Information Security Services
>
>         West Virginia University
>         office: (304) 293-8502 <tel:%28304%29%20293-8502>
>         remeyers () mail wvu edu <mailto:remeyers () mail wvu edu>
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>         >>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM, "SCHALIP, MICHAEL"
>         <mschalip () CNM EDU <mailto:mschalip () CNM EDU>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Mark....et al....
>
>         Your point is well taken - and absolutely correct.  I just
>         thought this would be something to throw out to the masses and
>         see what everyone else was thinking or doing.  As it turns out
>         - I think most folks feel the way you do....you can't stop
>         them - if anything, having a "contract" with them is just
>         formal notification and acknowledgement of what they're
>         doing....or going to do anyway.  I'm not the decision maker in
>         matters like this.....just the information gatherer.....so,
>         this is the overview that I passed along.....
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Michael
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Berman, Mark [mailto:mberman () siena edu]
>         <mailto:%5Bmailto:mberman () siena edu%5D>
>         Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:50 AM
>         To: SCHALIP, MICHAEL; SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>         <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
>         Subject: Re: Google Maps offering to "map our
>         locations"....concerns??
>
>         Michael,
>
>         I realize that for those of whose job includes security there
>         is a responsibility to be a little paranoid, but this seems
>         pretty harmless. Wearing another my hats of being responsible
>         for the wireless network this seems very cool. They are
>         offering to map the strength of our WiFi signal in the public
>         areas of our campus. We don't intentionally provide wireless
>         signal outdoors: here in the northeast there are only 2 weeks
>         a year that the weather is conducive to sitting outside and
>         working, otherwise it's too cold or it's raining or it's too
>         sunny to see the screen! However a wireless heat map of the
>         campus would be useful to students and useful to us to see if
>         there are areas that we should pump up a bit. Most campuses
>         have centrally controlled WiFi networks and I can't see any
>         particular security risk to Google advertising the (after all)
>         publicly viewable aspects of our networks.
>
>         Am I missing something?
>
>         - Mark
>
>         From: "SCHALIP, MICHAEL"
>         <mschalip () CNM EDU<mailto:mschalip () CNM EDU
>         <mailto:mschalip () CNM EDU%3cmailto:mschalip () CNM EDU>>>
>         Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:16:19 -0400
>         Subject: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??
>
>
>         Hi Folks....
>
>         Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them
>         to "map your campus" in detail - presumably, for student
>         navigation purposes??  Here's the "agreement" that they want
>         us to sign off on.  I have some basic concerns, but - then
>         again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.  So - I
>         thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what your
>         collective wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized
>         entry)....
>
>         Let me know what you all think....
>
>
>
>         Thanks,
>
>
>
>         Michael
>
>         Agreement
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- Ken
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