Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

["Routen, Nathan" <NRouten () MAIL TWU EDU>]

Anyone can add this detail themselves or Google can help. http://maps.google.com/floorplans

"Submit your entry for a chance to win and help your university at the same time! Join together with up to three other 
student mappers to add high quality edits like university buildings, walking paths, public spaces, or restaurant 
hangouts near your campus using Google Map Maker, and your efforts could win a grand prize package worth more than 
$5,000 USD for your team.

Map universities, campus organizations, local businesses, university buildings and so much more! Adding these features 
to the map will help students and visitors alike when they visit your campus. Having a complete, accurate and rich map 
on Google helps people in your campus community, businesses, tourism boards, civil services and even emergency rescue 
workers.

Did you know you can help improve indoor maps of your campus? Universities can use indoor maps to help new and 
returning students locate their classrooms, highlight important areas of buildings (such as specific administrative 
offices) and navigate in libraries or gymnasiums. After obtaining the necessary permissions and ensuring that your 
submission complies with our content guidelines, go to http://maps.google.com/floorplans and follow the instructions to 
put your university's floor plan on Google Maps.  Important note:  Indoor maps submissions are not part of an official 
entry to the contest, but can make the map of your campus even more complete!

Be recognized and rewarded for your mapping contributions. The contest winning mapping team will be a local campus 
hero.  Top mapping contributors appear on Google Map Maker and ultimately on Google Maps."

http://sites.google.com/site/mapyourworldcommunity/competition/2012-us-ca-universities

Nate


From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Heath 
Barnhart
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:22 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

I agree with this as well. There's a difference between walking around with your wifi adapter on and seeing what you 
see and actually capturing information, which I believe if anyone of us got caught doing would land us in a federal 
prison.

I would suggest, if asked for opinion by administration, that a stipulation be made that Google only be allowed to do 
passive scanning of the network only. That way they can still gather their WiFi location data if they want but not get 
user data.
--
Heath Barnhart, CCNA
Network Administrator
Information Systems Services
Washburn University
Topeka, KS

On 4/17/2012 12:20 PM, Hahues, Sven wrote:

The reasonably paranoid person in me was also going to say what David said.  I'd be more concerned with what they may 
be gathering "accidentally" while they are at your campus than what they are there to officially do.



It's not like Google hasn't "accidentally" done this in the past - 
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176810/Google_stops_sniffing_Wi_Fi_data_after_privacy_gaffe



I don't know about you, but the difference between running netstumbler and tcpdump isn't  just a simple "whoops - wrong 
button, my bad..." kinda thing, so a little bit of suspicion is well placed.



Sven



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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of David L. 
Wasley

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:04 PM

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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??



I'm curious why there have been few comments about what Google did -not- say in the agreement.  There have been many 
news stories about Google "accidentally" collecting emails, passwords, etc., as a byproduct of doing this mapping.  My 
own paranoia would lead me to request an explicit clause that says something like "Any information recorded by Google 
or it's contractor other than what is described above as Location Information shall not be used for any purpose and 
shall be erased from all records immediately upon discovery."



David





On Apr 15, 2012, at 9:16 PM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL wrote:







        Hi Folks....



        Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them to "map your campus" in detail - presumably, for 
student navigation purposes??  Here's the "agreement" that they want us to sign off on.  I have some basic concerns, 
but - then again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.  So - I thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what 
your collective wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized entry)....



        Let me know what you all think....







        Thanks,







        Michael





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