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Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice
From: "Carson, Larry" <larry.carson () UBC CA>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:03:00 +0000
I think .edu too narrowly limits the group to US higher ed institutes only when Educause is world-wide in scope. I don't see any issue with limiting it to Educause member institutes though. Larry --- Larry Carson Associate Director, Information Security Management Information Technology | Engage. Envision. Enable. The University of British Columbia Tel: 604.822.0773 | Twitter: @L4rryC4rson ----- Original Message ----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> Sent: Thu Dec 08 07:54:30 2011 Subject: Re: [SECURITY] FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice I think participation in the list should be limited to .edu addresses and that access to the archives be limited to those with Educause login credentials. We can protect future discussions even if we can't expunge the past archives from the public space. In my view, anyone who posts security related or DMCA complaint information to a public forum should be thinking long and hard about who is reading the posts. Chuck Charles F. Dunn Information Security Officer University at Buffalo 716-645-3582 On 12/8/11 10:29 AM, Ken Connelly wrote:
There are guidelines, and EDUCAUSE generally does a good job of helping to enforce them. That said, the list is public and archived/available on the web. Even if vendors and trolls aren't list members, they can still see what's been said. Even if that's removed or restricted to EDUCAUSE/list members only, it's been available and you have to presume that there are copies other than the one that EDUCAUSE maintains. I think that Dennis has made a huge mistake here, but I find that vendors tend to think differently than I do. - ken Hanson, Mike wrote:Valerie and Rodney, Why are non .edu people allowed to post on this forum and threaten legal action? What is the value of this forum if it is not the free exchange of information between .edu's? Members are asking for and seeking advice on particular products and implementations. Now we have to worry about whether or not a particular vendor is listening and will seek legal recourse based on an opinion expressed? Mike Hanson Network Security Manager The College of St. Scholastica Duluth, MN 55811 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:42 AM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL <mschalip () cnm edu <mailto:mschalip () cnm edu>> wrote: Hey Educause…..any thoughts here? We come on this discussion group for the free exchange of ideas – and THIS is allowed!? Wow….. *From:* Dennis Meharchand [mailto:dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com>] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:25 PM *To:* SCHALIP, MICHAEL *Subject:* RE: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Michael, I think your response was bad form. I am instructing my lawyers to file the first patent infringement lawsuit against CNM. Let’s see how much of a bad publicity stunt this is. Dennis Meharchand CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc. Cell: 416-618-4622 <tel:416-618-4622> Email: dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com> Web: www.valtx.com <http://www.valtx.com> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *SCHALIP, MICHAEL *Sent:* December 7, 2011 9:34 AM *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> *Subject:* [Possible Spam] Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's? Bad form…..scare tactics…..bad publicity stunt…..how do we get the Educause moderator involved?? *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Walter Moore *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:54 AM *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's? You had it right in your first paragraph. Whatever the merits of your patent case (and you will have to forgive my skepticism) you have no business interjecting it into this discussion. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Dennis Meharchand <dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com>> wrote: This is likely one of those situations where I should just continue to shut my mouth until we are already to act but here goes: My company Valt.X Technologies owns the patents in this area and we intend to enforce our patents in 2012. Here’s my advice – if you are using Deep Freeze or any VDI - include in your contract that they cover you for Patent Infringement. Valt.X has just won its first public tender in Canada – we own this area and intend to enforce our intellectual property rights. Our position is that Deep Freeze is a blatant copy of Valt.X issued patents and that VDI also infringes our patents – we intend to sue all infringers. Dennis Meharchand CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc. Cell: 416-618-4622 <tel:416-618-4622> Email: dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com> Web: www.valtx.com <http://www.valtx.com> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Payne *Sent:* December 6, 2011 6:01 PM *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> *Subject:* [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's? We are looking into VDI for all our computer labs. VMware View to be exact with WYSE P20 Zero Clients. Roughly about 300 or more vm's for all the labs. From a virtual standpoint - do you see the need for Faronics Deepfreeze on all computer lab vm's? Currently we are using Deepfreeze on our desktops in all labs and has worked out great. For this situation, I'm not interested in the security implications of why Deepfreeze is bad, just if its recommended in a virtual environment. What are you doing in situations if a user profile gets hosed up with malware in this vm enviroment? -- Brandon Payne Technical Support Specialist Information Services Sauk Valley Community College -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ Walter R. Moore -- Sr. Systems Administrator, Eckerd College moorewr () eckerd edu <mailto:moorewr () eckerd edu> -- http://home.eckerd.edu/~moorewr <http://home.eckerd.edu/%7Emoorewr> "It was glorious to see -- if your heart were iron, And you could keep from grieving at all the pain" - The Iliad (13.355) I'm on twitter: http://twitter.com/moorewreckerd ***Reminder! 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- Re: OT: Software patent FUD?, (continued)
- Re: OT: Software patent FUD? Dave Koontz (Dec 07)
- Re: OT: Software patent FUD? Tracy Mitrano (Dec 07)
- Re: Deepfreeze on vm's? Valdis Kletnieks (Dec 07)
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- FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice SCHALIP, MICHAEL (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Hanson, Mike (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Drew Perry (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Semmens, Theresa (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Sarazen, Daniel (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Ken Connelly (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Chuck Dunn (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Carson, Larry (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Valerie Vogel (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Ian McDonald (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Bateman, Darrell (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl) (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Nathaniel Hall (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Tom Zeller (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Pete Hickey (Dec 09)
- Re: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Jason C. Belford (Dec 09)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Dave Koontz (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice Sam Stelfox (Dec 08)