Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice

["Sarazen, Daniel" <dsarazen () UMASSP EDU>]

I agree, but Perhaps he was having a bad day...

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Semmens, 
Theresa
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:34 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice

I was able to access the website.

Does he realize how many potential customers both in retail and as potential investors he has lost through this display 
of inappropriate behavior?

He gives vendors and other interested person who like to moderate the list to filter was is at the top of the lists for 
many Higher Ed institutions a bad name.  And we do have several good vendors who have been very good partners for 
Higher Ed and EDUCAUSE.



Theresa Semmens, CISA
NDSU Chief Information Technology Security Officer
NDSU Dept. 4510
210D IACC, PO Box 6050
Fargo, ND 58108-6050
Office: 701-231-5870
Cell: 701-+212-2064
Theresa.Semmens () ndsu edu<mailto:Theresa.Semmens () ndsu edu>
www.ndsu.edu/its/security<http://www.ndsu.edu/its/security>

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EDU]<mailto:[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU]> On Behalf Of Drew Perry
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice

Well, as of this morning, their corporate site is down. So it looks like their groundbreaking method for guaranteed 
computer system security is to turn them off. They may have a point.

Drew Perry
Security Analyst
Murray State University
(270) 809-4414
aperry () murraystate edu<mailto:aperry () murraystate edu>

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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Hanson, Mike <mhanson () css edu<mailto:mhanson () css edu>> wrote:
Valerie and Rodney,

Why are non .edu people allowed to post on this forum and threaten legal action?

What is the value of this forum if it is not the free exchange of information between .edu's?

Members are asking for and seeking advice on particular products and implementations. Now we have to worry about 
whether or not a particular vendor is listening and will seek legal recourse based on an opinion expressed?


Mike Hanson
Network Security Manager
The College of St. Scholastica
Duluth, MN 55811






On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:42 AM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL <mschalip () cnm edu<mailto:mschalip () cnm edu>> wrote:
Hey Educause.....any thoughts here?

We come on this discussion group for the free exchange of ideas - and THIS is allowed!?

Wow.....

From: Dennis Meharchand [mailto:dennis () valtx com<mailto:dennis () valtx com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:25 PM
To: SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Subject: RE: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice

Michael,

I think your response was bad form.
I am instructing my lawyers to file the first patent infringement lawsuit against CNM.

Let's see how much of a bad publicity stunt this is.

Dennis Meharchand
CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc.
Cell: 416-618-4622<tel:416-618-4622>
Email: dennis () valtx com<mailto:dennis () valtx com>
Web: www.valtx.com<http://www.valtx.com>

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () 
LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] On Behalf Of SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Sent: December 7, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: [Possible Spam] Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?

Bad form.....scare tactics.....bad publicity stunt.....how do we get the Educause moderator involved??

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LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] On Behalf Of Walter Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:54 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?

You had it right in your first paragraph. Whatever the merits of your patent case (and you will have to forgive my 
skepticism) you have no business interjecting it into this discussion.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Dennis Meharchand <dennis () valtx com<mailto:dennis () valtx com>> wrote:
This is likely one of those situations where I should just continue to shut my mouth until we are already to act but 
here goes:

My company Valt.X Technologies owns the patents in this area and we intend to enforce our patents in 2012.
Here's my advice - if you are using Deep Freeze or any VDI - include in your contract that they cover you for Patent 
Infringement.

Valt.X has just won its first public tender in Canada - we own this area and intend to enforce our intellectual 
property rights.

Our position is that Deep Freeze is a blatant copy of Valt.X issued patents and that VDI also infringes our patents - 
we intend to sue all infringers.

Dennis Meharchand
CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc.
Cell: 416-618-4622<tel:416-618-4622>
Email: dennis () valtx com<mailto:dennis () valtx com>
Web: www.valtx.com<http://www.valtx.com>

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () 
LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] On Behalf Of Brandon Payne
Sent: December 6, 2011 6:01 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?

We are looking into VDI for all our computer labs. VMware View to be exact with WYSE P20 Zero Clients. Roughly about 
300 or more vm's for all the labs.

> From a virtual standpoint - do you see the need for Faronics Deepfreeze on all computer lab vm's? Currently we are 
> using Deepfreeze on our desktops in all labs and has worked out great. For this situation, I'm not interested in the 
> security implications of why Deepfreeze is bad, just if its recommended in a virtual environment.

What are you doing in situations if a user profile gets hosed up with malware in this vm enviroment?

--
Brandon Payne
Technical Support Specialist
Information Services
Sauk Valley Community College



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