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Re: Anyone running Office 2007 DEP or MOICE?


From: Bob Doyle <bobdoyle () KELLOGG NORTHWESTERN EDU>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:34:02 -0500

I talked with a co-worker today who's had global DEP enabled for awhile and he's notice that it applies to everything 
but Excel.  If you apply the fixit to enable DEP excel is now covered.

Weird....

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Flynn, Gary [mailto:flynngn () JMU EDU] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone running Office 2007 DEP or MOICE?

We've only briefly talked about enabling these in our desktop management
meetings. I've been running software DEP configured from the System
control panel for years and have had MOICE installed almost since it
was introduced. When I open an Office document from the web, MOICE is
the default open option. I have not had any problems with either feature
though I had to exempt a few programs from DEP. They weren't Office programs
though.

I wonder if the global System Control Panel DEP settings applies to 
Office to.

Gary Flynn
Security Engineer
James Madison University

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Doyle
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:01 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: [SECURITY] Anyone running Office 2007 DEP or MOICE?

I'm investigating anti-exploit technologies for Office 2007 and have
identified two that seem useful:



1.  Enabling Data Execution Prevention for Office 2007 by default

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971766

 Description: DEP isn't enabled by default for Office 2007, this turns it
on



2.  The Microsoft Isolated Converter Environment (MOICE)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935865

 Description: MOICE is an isolated environment that converts any document
from binary office format (.doc,.ppt,.xls) to the XML based Office 2007
format (docx, pptx, xlsx).  The conversion will pretty much strip out any
malicious binary code that could be hiding in the file.



Is anyone out there supporting or encouraging users to use either of
these? Has anyone run into use cases where these don't work?  And btw,
what are people's policies toward Office 2007 format these days?



Cheers,



Bob





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Bob Doyle

Northwestern University

Kellogg School of Management



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