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Re: Outbound SMTP
From: Roger Safian <r-safian () NORTHWESTERN EDU>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:46:44 -0500
At 11:51 AM 4/25/2008, Michael Van Norman put fingers to keyboard and wrote:
Joe, you have a fair point, but you are making it a bit extreme. I would agree, in some contexts, when it comes to NAC, for example. Yet, the suggestion that blocking port 25 outbound is problematic for usability isn't very sustainable.A researcher on your campus is developing an application that uses e-mail and incorporates its own MTA. A port 25 block breaks that. That to me is a problem with network usability, not an extreme position.
Are you suggesting that a filter is always binary? On for the entire network or off? If so, then perhaps that's extreme, but, as we all know, exceptions can be made. Fortunately these types of exceptions are not that difficult to deal with. This brings me to one of my concerns. Why do we have to engineer our entire networks in one fashion? How about a research network, where port 25 was open, and an administrative network where it's not? If every time I say lets do X, you respond with but so and so needs X, we make no progress. How about we do X, where practical, and still allow so and so the use of an open network? If network security is going to make significant strides we need to quit catering to the least common denominator. -- Roger A. Safian r-safian () northwestern edu (email) public key available on many key servers. (847) 491-4058 (voice) (847) 467-6500 (Fax) "You're never too old to have a great childhood!"
Current thread:
- Re: Outbound SMTP, (continued)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Jenkins, Matthew (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Joey Rego (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Jeff Kell (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Joe St Sauver (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Basgen, Brian (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Michael Van Norman (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Stephen John Smoogen (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Deke Kassabian (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP David Lundy (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Jenkins, Matthew (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Roger Safian (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP ken lindahl (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Don Nightingale (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Michael Van Norman (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Michael Sinatra (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Joel Rosenblatt (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Basgen, Brian (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Jason S. Cash (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Michael Sinatra (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Michael Sinatra (Apr 25)
- Re: Outbound SMTP Joe St Sauver (Apr 25)
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