Re: The Assimilation of Sysinternals

["Ian Melven" <ian.melven () gmail com>]

So what's the legal angle on any of the thousands of people who
mirrored the entire Sysinternals site when the MS acquisition was
announced putting up the sources somewhere ?

This reminds me of when Securityfocus took down all their exploits and
everyone had a giant .tar.gz on their machine.

Ian


On 11/8/06, Dave Korn <dave.korn () artimi com> wrote:
>   Guess what.
>
>
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
> dk@rainbow /tmp> wget -S http://www.sysinternals.com/
> --13:42:46--  http://www.sysinternals.com/
>            => `index.html'
> Resolving www.sysinternals.com... 66.193.254.46
> Connecting to www.sysinternals.com[66.193.254.46]:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
>  1 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
>  2 Content-Length: 181
>  3 Content-Type: text/html
>  4 Location: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
>
>
>   Oh look, they've moved it over to microsoft.  Let's take a look
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
> Featured Resources
>         File and Disk Utilities Networking      Processes & Threads
>         Security Utilities      System Information      Miscellaneous
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
>
>
>   Hmmm, looks like pretty much the same old stuff... <browse><browse>... hang
> on a minute!  Where's the sources?
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/sysinternals/
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
> Hi, my name is Otto Helweg and I'm very excited to help lead the Sysinternals
> community migration as well as help define a plan for Sysinternals growth
> going forward. I'm a Program Manager in the Windows Server and Tools division
> but my background is heavy IT-Pro (not too much dev) and I look forward to
> interfacing[*] with the Sysinternals users.
>                                 [ . . . ]
> Our goal is to smoothly migrate the major Sysinternals site components to
> Microsoft services and keep the same level of service the community received
> pre-acquisition. Here's how the components are going to match up:
>
>
> Original Sysinternals Site              Microsoft Service
>
> Mark's Blog                             TechNet Blog - Mark
> Yahoo Groups Newsletter         TechNet Blog - Sysinternals
> Web Site                                TechNet TechCenter
> Downloads                               Microsoft.Com Downloads
> Forum                                   TechNet Forum
> Source Code                             Not being migrated.
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
>
>
>   Woah!  "Not being migrated"?!  Thanks a BUNCH, "Otto".  WTF not?
>
>
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
> Source Code: The number of source code downloads didn't justify the migration,
> support, and possible integration problems it might cause with other Windows
> components down the road.
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
>
>
>   Now, how is that for a completely bogus weasel bunch of crap.  Source code
> might cause "integration problems [...] with other Windows components"?  Total
> bullshit.  Microsoft is simply irrationally allergic to ever letting anyone
> see sources for anything and this is like the kind of pathetic blatantly false
> rationalisations that neurotics come up with to justify their irrational and
> compulsive behaviours.
>
>   Microsoft needs to get into therapy[**].
>
>
>   In other news:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/information/licensing.mspx
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
> Installation and User Rights
>
> You may install and use any number of copies of the software on your devices.
>                                 [ . . . ]
> Scope of License
>
>  You may not
>                                 [ . . . ]
> make more copies of the software than specified in this agreement
> ---------------------------------<snip!>---------------------------------
>
>
>   I must not make more than "any number" of copies of the software?  I'm not
> sure if this means I can only make zero copies or if I can make infinite
> copies...
>
>
>
>     cheers,
>       DaveK
>
> [*]  - sic.  I /think/ it's a typo for 'interfering'.  ;-)
> [**] - I know, I know... this is hardly news to anyone!
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