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Re: Re: Exactly 500 word essay on "Why hacking iscool, so that Marcus changes his web site"
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:41:17 -0400
Gadi Evron wrote:
Is studying biology bad? Is creating new medicine bad? The exact same guys and equipment can be used to design viruses.
You didn't ask the other question: "Is desigining killer viruses bad?" to which I would respond "It is an abomination." A doctor can spend a lifetime trying to figure out how to fight viruses without having to develop killer viruses. A doctor who aids and abets those monsters that would develop killer viruses is a fool, at best, and a friend of monsters at worst. Knowledge is power. With power comes responsibility. It's as simple as that.
Main question is, is thee Good in security research? The answer is yes.
I _agree_. There is also responsibility that comes with it, and a lot of the readers of this list appear to be comfortable shirking it.
This is moving from annoying to old.
You know what I think? I think it's annoying and old because I'm saying things a lot of security practitioners are afraid to hear. I'm challenging their comfortable self-justifying logic that lets them do reprehensible things like educating the enemy and making money doing so. I'm making some of you uncomfortable because I speak from the perspective of someone who works with the victims of your friends. I bet that's annoying. I bet that's "old." mjr.
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