Re: PHRACK #63 - CALL FOR PAPERS

[Michael Murray <mmurray () episteme ca>]

On 1/22/05 5:42 AM, "surreal () delusory org" <surreal () delusory org> wrote:

> Anyone catch the talk on NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) at DC X,
> right before GOBBLES? (
> http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-10/defcon-10-speakers.html#error ).
> If the video's online I recall it being a decent enough short intro to
> the subject. Make friends, influence people, achieve World Domination
> in your spare time... Books by Bandler and Grinder are the best, I'm
> told. 

Bandler and Grinder are the seminal work on the subject, but their books are
somewhat difficult to read - most of their work is either seminar
transcripts or based on formal logic.   For learning the history, they're
interesting, but I'd suggest starting with Nicholas Boothman's books -
they're far more accessible.  Even Tony Robbins is more accessible in
presenting the topics if you can get by the hype (and his teeth ;)

More interesting than straight NLP is the body of work by Milton Erickson -
much of Bandler and Grinder's work (esp. Trance-Formations and Frogs into
Princes) was based on their time modelling Erickson.  Erickson is widely
regarded as the greatest hypnotherapist of all time...

I wouldn't say it's useful for achieving world domination, but it definitely
provides the ability to play around with language patterns in the same way I
play around with inputs to a program.  There's a definite "hacking the
brain" analogy with hypnosis... The analogues are surprising sometimes.

-M

-----------------
Mike Murray CISSP, CHT


_______________________________________________
Dailydave mailing list
Dailydave () lists immunitysec com
https://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave