RE: McAffee bought Foundstone!

["Edward Ray" <support () mmicman com>]

It is good to see you still sticking up for yourself (and Foundstone) :)

A good many "smart" technical folks have left, but many still remain.  Your
company is the only one of the five who made the pact with MS back in
11/2001 that I still respect.

I think McAffee needs you more than the other way around.  Symmantec already
led in the anti-virus space (although IMHO their AV stuff leaves a little to
be desired).  The have nothing in the IPS realm, which is the product du
jour in the security commity these days.

Hope you are able to keep your corporate culture and remaining good
technical folks together down in Mission Viejo.

Regards,

Edward W. Ray 

-----Original Message-----
From: dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com
[mailto:dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com] On Behalf Of Erik Birkholz
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:09 PM
To: thothics () gmail com; dailydave () lists immunitysec com
Subject: Re: [Dailydave] McAffee bought Foundstone!

"not many of the smart technical staff were left". 

Please!  Are you just making things up to entertain yourself on the mailing
list?  Trying to find your first friend?

Could you throw rocks from any further Mr. Gmail Anonymous? Don't dare
anonymously assault the smart people who are working hard earning their damn
paychecks!  Are you so great as to stand on high and criticize?    Unless
this is from Halvar, David L or Aitel then your answer is no. 

Again, as a non-founder but 4 year plus employee, your fabricated comments
like, "All their current sales engagements are pretty much lost at this
point" are laughable. 

To anyone who actually paid attention to this anonymous post and has
concerns or doubts, please feel free to email or call me directly.
949.297.5591.  

Well, there was one more thing...

Btw thothics (djuit), thanks for the valuable post. No, wait.  My bad. Oh
yea, I forgot this email list was created to facilitate the exchange of
hurtful and worthless...  No... Wait... Unmoderated lists were created in
hopes they would be self moderated to actually make them better than my SPAM
folder.  Please take your negative politics elsewhere.

If you care to insult the hard working consultants and trainers of
Foundstone, please... No really... I beg you... Email me so I can set up a
place for us to meet and "talk" about the value of respect. 

Erik Pace Birkholz
Erik () foundstone com
Erik () SpecialOpsSecurity com
www.SpecialOpsSecurity.com


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Foundstone, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com
<dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com>
To: dailydave () lists immunitysec com <dailydave () lists immunitysec com>
Sent: Thu Aug 19 08:47:18 2004
Subject: Re: [Dailydave] McAffee bought Foundstone!

> Unless the org is serious about how it assimalates new cultures, now is 
> a good time to start recruiting from Foundstone. I'll bet most of the 
> employees are pretty pissed, meanwhile they can prolly get 10%-30% 
> raises out of this by jumping ship.

There was a huge falling out a while ago from FS and not many of the smart
technical staff were left.  A lot of them went to competing firms in the
area.  I would imagine that the sale was mostly for the IP rights (look out
NTice) of the scanning software.
As for managed services I'd imagine the current install base may stay loyal
for a while but anyone who was on the fence is about to switch vendors.  All
their current sales engagements are pretty much lost at this point.  Who
would want to purchase from someone who's future is unknown?
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