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Re: The Return on Investment of Good Security


From: "Adriel T. Desautels" <ad_lists () netragard com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:23:44 -0500

Yes, you are right on the money.

We've already got a few good white papers that we allow our prospects to download. These papers arm the prospects with intelligence whereby enabling them to vet out the frauds from the real providers. But yes, my goal is to set a higher standard for security services, not just within my own business. Yes, we are a very high quality provider and that is because of how much effort, thought, and experience we have to put into being such a provider. We'll never call ourselves the best, once anyone thinks that its nearly time for a big fat "Game over".

Quality providers are measured by the depth, accuracy and quality of their deliverables. Missing something as basic as a default SNMP configuration is pretty weak unless the technology was installed or configured after the assessment. Networks do change and something that is secure today might not be tomorrow.


On Jan 5, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Mercurio, Michael D (Dante) wrote:

The article is basically stating you get what you pay for. The problem
is the measurement of a 'good' vs. 'bad' service is not as easy as just
comparing pricing. To make your point, the vendor needs to provide
'quality' service and I'm assuming you are making the argument that your
company is the 'quality' vendor that costs more, but I have seen many
high priced vendors who did not have a clue.

Simple example, I once found default SNMP read/write access to a bank
core switch that was missed by a previous 'nationally known quality'
vendor who charged twice as much. In order to justify a higher price,
you need to educate people on what qualifies as a 'good' vs. 'bad'
vendor besides price.

You might want to touch on items such as:
1) Review and compare scopes of work to ensure they are both doing the
same thing.
2) Review a sample report to ensure you will be getting something of
quality back.
3) Ask for sample resumes of consultants that will be conducting the
assessment.
4) Ask to contact some references.

The items above will tell you more about a 'quality' vendor than the
price of the assessment and also provide more reasons why an assessment
will cost more.

M. Dante Mercurio, CISSP, CCNA
http://www.mercurio.ws
http://advinsecurity.wordpress.com


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Subject: The Return on Investment of Good Security

Latest blog entry for those who care. This one compares the Return on
Investment of good security services to the Return on Investment of poor quality security services. As usual comments and criticisms are welcome
and appreciated.

Direct link as requested:

http://snosoft.blogspot.com/2009/01/cost-of-good-security-is-fraction-of
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