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Re: When IT Manager breaks rules
From: "Byron (Yahoo)" <snail945 () yahoo com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:10:23 -0700
another idea.why not ask the manager to sit down with you and let him know how you feel, and outline your concerns - how his/her actions put you and/or the company in a tough spot.
and i would ask the IT manger if there's something i'm missing (a material fact), and if not, i'd ask directly for support forward. if the policies are grounded and signed off on at the executive level, i can't help but think he/she would respect your approach. they'd also respect you (a lot) coming directly to them (human to human), vs. playing the "police/confrontation" card we often do in security. i would.
we're all humans. even if sometimes we don't seem like it :0. I've found that a little good old fashion opening and listening can solve what appear to be major issues. it can build relationships.
good luck. Byron -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of WALI Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:33 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: When IT Manager breaks rules Hi guys...an odd question here!! I am mad at my IT Manager, he is such a sissy!! Being a internal security analyst in-charge, I want to enforce a few policies at help desk. One of them is, not to create any user account unless an email arrives from HR to HelpDesk, informing of the user's badge ID, the department he/she belongs to. The status of employment and all those things. The procedures are in place but sometimes it so happens that some Head of the Dept. or executive management calls up our IT Manager over the phone, or send him an email directly which is then forwarded to our Help Desk incharge who is then left with little options but to create the account without due processes. All policy compliance guidelines get thrown up in the air. HelpDesk incharge is bound by his position to, not to defy IT manager and he is scared to tell me (sometimes he does) that IT manager is forcing him to dilute the AD account creation policy. I don't want to confront IT manager based upon inputs by Helpdesk guys but would rather put a mechanism in place, where I would automatically come to know, that an account has been created and I can ask helpdesk to provide proof of the email from HR arbitrarily and then confront the manager. I know some Audit trails can be put and they would appear under Security tab of Event manager ( or so I guess) but I need something more automated that would land in my mailbox. Is this possible through any automated solution in AD of Windows 2003? Probably MOM 2005 or the types? In case I chose to confront HR Admin/ managers with a plea to stop sending such requests to our IT Manager and put their house in order, what all genuine risks of 'not doing so' can I highlight? Ours is fairly large corporation employing about a 1000 people.This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are NOT the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying this e-mail is strictly prohibited.
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