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RE: When IT Manager breaks rules


From: "Trevor Greenfield" <tgreenfield () internode on net>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:26:48 +0930

Why not just 'adjust the policy' and request the helpdesk to ask HR for
confirmation that the request is legitimate, with the requisite details
coming from HR.
Copy the request to your manager.
My guess in an organization your size there would be some legislative
compliance you need to fulfil (eg Sarbanes-Oxley).
Perhaps make it as a 'suggestion' in tightening up the compliance.
An external audit would then show this up as loophole that had been closed.

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Subject: When IT Manager breaks rules

Hi guys...an odd question here!! I am mad at my IT Manager, he is such a 
sissy!!

Being a internal security analyst in-charge, I want to enforce a few 
policies at help desk. One of them is, not to create any user account 
unless an email arrives from HR to HelpDesk, informing of the user's badge 
ID, the department he/she belongs to. The status of employment and all 
those things. The procedures are in place but sometimes it so happens that 
some Head of the Dept. or executive management calls up our IT Manager over 
the phone, or send him an email directly which is then forwarded to our 
Help Desk incharge who is then left with little options but to create the 
account without due processes. All policy compliance guidelines get thrown 
up in the air.

HelpDesk incharge is bound by his position to, not to defy IT manager and 
he is scared to tell me (sometimes he does) that IT manager is forcing him 
to dilute the AD account creation policy.

I don't want to confront IT manager based upon inputs by Helpdesk guys but 
would rather put a mechanism in place, where I would automatically come to 
know, that an account has been created and I can ask helpdesk to provide 
proof of the email from HR arbitrarily and then confront the manager.

I know some Audit trails can be put and they would appear under Security 
tab of Event manager ( or so I guess) but I need something more automated 
that would land in my mailbox.

Is this possible through any automated solution in AD of Windows 2003? 
Probably MOM 2005 or the types?
In case I chose to confront  HR Admin/ managers with a plea to stop sending 
such requests to our IT Manager and put their house in order, what all 
genuine risks of 'not doing so' can I highlight? Ours is fairly large 
corporation employing about a 1000 people.




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