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RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification
From: "Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:50:12 +1100
I have completed GIAC certs in both sides of the divide - ie pre and post the changes to certification. They never removed the practical. They changed all existing certs to automatically be Gold, as these have both a test and prac. They also changed the order - ie from prac than test to test than prac. I was in the process of taking one of the certs when this changed. At this point a choice was given and I did the old way - paper first. So the prac never disapeared - they just added levels - ie silver and gold. The test is to see what level of cert is held. A Silver is just the test and the number of certified people has incresed significantly if this is all one checks. The Gold certs are still rare and the ones that are valuable. However, many people do not know the difference and thus they do not look at the silver and gold as having distinct values. So Silver GIAC is purely exam based. Gold GIAC is no differnt other than the order of the testing. Craig ________________________________ From: listbounce () securityfocus com on behalf of Don Parker Sent: Sat 24/03/2007 9:20 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Indeed the practical portion was done away with and then brought back after a lot of bitching was done. You may want to read the column on Securityfocus I wrote about it actually :-) http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/311 That column pretty much sums up my feeling on GIAC now. Cheers, Don -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Tony UcedaVélez Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:25 AM To: 'Johnston Mark (UK)'; andrews () rbacomm com; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Agree with everything Mark noted, however, I believe they did away with the practical as of roughly 2 years ago. It may be only relevant to only some of the GIAC certifications, but I distinctly remember seeing that the practical was retired for various GIAC certs. If this still holds true, its regrettable b/c the practical was indeed a huge aspect in truly learning about a security disciplined compared to the traditional multiple choice Q&A that you get with the exam portion and other security examinations. Overall, I highly recommend the cert along with partaking in an actual boot camp prior to the cert. Like Mark said, great way to intermingle with some of the top security professionals today. Best, Tony UcedaVélez, CISM, CISA, GIAC President VerSprite, LLC (office) 678.938.3434 (email) tonyuv[at]versprite[dot]com (web) www.versprite.com -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Johnston Mark (UK) Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:06 AM To: andrews () rbacomm com; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Hey there, The biggest distinguishing factor between the 2 certifications is that for the GIAC certs, you need to complete a practical. This is where I believe the value comes in, as to be able to pass you must have the practical knowledge. Take for example the GCFW ... when I did it you needed to design a secure network, and display the configurations for the particular components that you used. Then you had to show an attack on a previously designed network. If you participate in the courses, you'll also get to meet some of the top guys in the security industry ... like Eric Cole, Stephen Northcutt Chris Brenton. Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of andrews () rbacomm com Sent: 14 March 2007 13:36 To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Does the GIAC/GSEC certification have value for someone with the CISSP certification? I am planning on getting my CISSP this year, but I may have a chance to go for the GSEC a bit earlier. Would that add any value, or is it a waste of time if I can attain the CISSP? Brad This electronic message contains information from O2 which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. 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