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Re: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification
From: "Florian Rommel" <frommel () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:20:38 +0200
Kim, I am not sure I agree with you on the assertion of "entry level" security with a CISSP. As you mentioned, a CISSP is a broad knowledge test. The SANS GSEC ( I have a colleague who took it last year) is just what it describes, a General Security knowledge test. Furthermore, at least when I took my CISSP some years ago, there was a minimum requirement of experience for it. CISSP holders usually have a higher ranking then GSECs, BUT that also varies from company to company. Can you pass a CISSP? Sure you can, but it is hard and it is very highly regarded. Plus ther is a procedure to it, as in apply, get approved, get acknowledged, where the GIAC is online exams... open book etc. I took my GIAC last year as well (GCUX) and I have to say I was quite excited as SANS is regarded as one of the best. I will go to another SANS course this year but the level of people that went to that particular course was WAY WAY WAY!! below anything I would have thought. I mean people "started playing with linux last thursday" and went to a GCUX course? Also the material wasnt really THAT great, at least if you have quite a few years Unix experience. I agree that GIACs are very good and the teacher (Hal) was extremely good. Also the other teachers really know what they are doing and they are great knowledge pools after class or in breaks. But the rest of the time you go with the lowest common denominator in the class.But regarding a GIAC higher then a CISSP, maybe in your opinion, not in the industries'. My 2 cents, but I have been wrong in the past so I can of course be now and if I am I apologize already. And as far as experience goes, 14+ years, you name it, i have probably done it (except programming :)... //Flosse CISSP,GIAC GCUX http://blog.2blocksaway.com On 3/14/07, Kim Guldberg <kim () bufferzone dk> wrote:
Ohhhh yes, Big time CISSP is a broad common body of knowledge certification with no depth at all. IMHO anybody with 3 weeks time to spend, a reasonable head, a heart for reading and remembering can pass a CISSP. GIAC certifications requires knowledge, skill and understanding and has depth. GIAC certifications are practical as well as theoretical. A CISSP certification is a foundation certification that will lead to a entry level job in the IT security industry or a non technical job, i.e. sales or marketing, unless you have other expert level technical education in witch case a CISSP will serve as an introduction into an IT security job GIAC will lead you to an expert level job, i.e. firewall analyst, forensic analyst and the likes Regards Kim Guldberg GCFW, CPSA andrews () rbacomm com skrev: > > Does the GIAC/GSEC certification have value for someone with the CISSP > certification? > > I am planning on getting my CISSP this year, but I may have a chance > to go for the GSEC a bit earlier. Would that add any value, or is it > a waste of time if I can attain the CISSP? > > Brad > >
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- The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification andrews (Mar 14)
- Re: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Kim Guldberg (Mar 15)
- Re: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification andrews (Mar 15)
- Re: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Florian Rommel (Mar 15)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Nick Duda (Mar 15)
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- Re: Bankers on FFIEC William M. Davis (Mar 15)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Johnston Mark (UK) (Mar 15)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Tony UcedaVĂ©lez (Mar 23)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Don Parker (Mar 23)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Craig Wright (Mar 26)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Tony UcedaVĂ©lez (Mar 23)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Tony UcedaVĂ©lez (Mar 23)
- RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Craig Wright (Mar 23)
- Re: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification Kim Guldberg (Mar 15)
- Re: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification William M. Davis (Mar 15)